Question on FR 66s

Hi Raul,

Yes, I agreed that there can be no discussion if one insists that he is always right, and any other who don't agree with him, wrong!

BTW, as you have mentioned, you also liked the FR66/64 once in the past! So, if we had followed your advice at the time, then we all have to make the change now! How can we be sure you won't change your mind tomorrow?

While I enjoy learning about the invaluable experience from other forum members, I would like to make my own judgment on the performance!

Since I have made my point, I would stay away from this subject! :-)

Dear Thekong: +++++ " How can we be sure you won't change your mind tomorrow? " +++++

you don't change when you don't learn: learning is a proccess that can gives you a new " vision/status " of things that you thinked you knwe very well. When we have new information true information on that continuously learning proccess usually time to time yo could change for the better: if not why spend time to learn if for no other thing that improve?

I can see that you don't move from that old tube technology even in the worst place to have: phono stage. Whatt did you learn that made that you don't move that you don't improve or grow-up about other that " I like it "?

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

you don't change when you don't learn: learning is a proccess that can gives you a new " vision/status

I can see that you don't move from that old tube technology even in the worst place to have: phono stage

I don’t know about the others, but I think there is some contradiction there!

Since you have been wrong….ah, let’s say less “learned”, in the past, how can we, or even you, be sure you won’t “learn” that tubes are superior tomorrow! Just like you have "learned" that digital can be superior to analogue!

After all, “When we have new information true information on that continuously learning proccess usually time to time yo could change for the better…”

Don't know where you got the idea that I am using a tube phono! Actually, I have been using SS phonos for the past few years. But then, I just placed an order for a tube phono, which is much superior to my untrained ears!

I am not advocating others to use tube rather than SS, just that is my choice! 

Dear Rual, I really have nothing against you! Actually, I have followed your advice and got myself an Acos / Lustre 801, which I still keep. A good arm in its own right, but I prefer the FR64S!

For the kind of distortions Syntax mentioned we are not
qualified to judge.

Dear Thekong: I read that you have an Eclipse and if I remember in the past you use S.Frontiers that I can't remember if is SS. For years I used tube electronics and learned, slowly but learned, so I changed as you did it. Time to time I ask to my audio friends ( audiophiles and retailers. ) for a tube unit only to check if I'm losting on something and till today that technology has nothing new to offer especially at phono stage level.

So, I can see any contradiction. As you learn as you can change for the better and this is the main subject: " FOR THE BETTER ", did you?

The kong my advise regarding the DISTOTIONS subject was and is to re-set to re-think the whole audio information we have or at least forget it for a while and then start to build a system from " cero " with no pre-judgements but with a new mind trying to start to learn as if we learned nothing through all these years. Is the only way to really change for the better to really understand what means lower distortions and how that lower distortions system sounds/performs and when this happen you will live the audio experience of YOUR LIFE enjoying MUSIC as never before.

Not an easy proccess but worth to intent it. You have to have a test/comparison whole proccess with very defined LP tracks that we will using always: same tracks and same " grooves " on each test tracks. That proccess must include self tests, yes we have to test it our selfs to know if we can understand and take advantage on that new learning proccess.

Thekong, I already said the same to Suteetat: how many years do you have on audio and how many years do you have in your today audio/music learning proccess and how many years do you have trying to improve your home audio experiences?, almost all your life, so don't wait that what I'm saying could be achieved after a few months: NO way.

I hope that over time you and other persons interested in the subjects I pointed out could experience it listening what I'm hearing at my place because when we have the opportunity to hear words are almost useless. Welcome any time any of you to have some additional/different audio fun.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.