Most demanding passages for a turntable & system


Analog setup: Technics SL1210 with KAB re-wire, RCA plate Cardas Litz RCA, Shelter 501II, Krell KPE Ref pre.
Cartridge weight set @ 1.2, anti-skate @ 1.0. Arm height @ 2.1 on the scale.
I've always used Emerson Lake & Palmers 1st LP to strain the heck out the the setup. The last song on side one "Knife-Edge" ends in a passage that absolutley will work the analog setup to its extreme. Also a passage on side 2's "Three Fates" comes a very close 2nd.
"Dark Side of the Moon" aint bad,but not that streneous on the turntable setup I think.
What do others use to really give the turntable "the ol' acid test", so to speak?
-John
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I played the 1812. It was fun. One of the few times that a subwoofer would be nice to reproduce the sub-sonics of the cannon fire.
Dear Tonywinsc: Yes dedicated active subs are a must here, no one passive full range speakers can do it with aplomb.

Btw, there are some cartridges that can ride all the cannon shots with no " apparent " tracking trouble but the important subject here is not only if can ride it but the quality level of the reproduced sound and it's here where belongs the differences and where we really can aware of which one is a top tracker and not all the ones that ride those grooves we can considered: top trackers, I mean top trackers beteen top trackers because any cartridge that can ride those grooves are top trackers but inside that performance level exist the top top trackers.

When you heard those grooves under the control of a top top tracker the experience is unique and non-imaginable!.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
The Shure Era IV tonearm resonance test and the Telarc 1812 Overture.

My old SL1200 was fitted with a Shure V15 III cartridge. With the cartridge brush down I thought it could track the 1812. A close look at the cannon shot grooves showed the cartridge/arm skipped over the shot leaving a detour scratch.

With the brush up this combination literally flew off the LP during the resonance test as do most other arm and cartridges. My current Well Tempered / Benz Micro RubyZ can track my other unscratched copy of the 1812. In my limited experience the Well Tempered arm is the only arm that manages the Shure tonearm resonance test all the way through. There must be others.

Dear Vicdamone: Normally Shure cartridges can play the Shure recording tests. Are you saying that the V15 III did not?

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
The Shure V15III had no brush; the V15IV and V did. I could always play the Telarc cannons with Shure M95E and up, and all Audio Technica cart's. If you look on the back of the jacket, AT distributed the record, so it's not surprising their cart's can do it justice. My Denon servotracer arm on the 62L has always played the cannons with ANY cart. I've used, even their 301II, also MMs such as from Ortofon or Stanton, whereas I could never get these brands to track on non servotracer arms. I spent an hour or so with an audio dealer who carries Project and Music Hall TTs; none of the Sumiko cart's could play the cannons, but a Goldring 1022 GX played them flawlessly. The Rega Elyses or Exact cartridges also cannot usually play the cannons. One exception was on my previously owned Rega P5 which had an Exact cartridge but a different arm than on my currently owned RP6.[RB303] The RP6/ Exact cannot track the cannons.