Music or Lyrics?


If you ask any "serious" (indie?) pop musician what's the most important aspect of their songs, I am sure they would most/all say: the lyrics. They spend so much time and effort on the words, and view this as "what they are saying," which is, to their mind, the reason for writing the song in the first place. (There was a piece by Suzanne Vega in the NY Times a couple of months back.)

But as listeners, what do we think?

For me, for most songs, the words are pretty much irrelevant. (In fact, I can't recite the full lyrics to any song, and can't even make them out on lots of the music I listen to.)

Instead, it's three things:

1. The musical hook

2. The *sound* of the voice(s)

3. The sound of the instrumentation.

In short, it's all about the music, and very little about the lyrics.

Or, to put it another way: I could imagine lots of different lyrics to many of the songs I love, and the song remains the same. But change the music? It becomes an entirely different song.

For example: Take any early passionate U2 anthem. Surely they could be written about other topics, while retaining the same music? Isn't it the music that makes the song compelling?

To be sure: With many/most great songs, we do sing along, and the words are part of our experience. But is it really their *meaning* that's important, or rather their *sound* in the context of the music as a whole? ---I think the latter, and the words could have been different and the song just as popular and compelling.

There are, I'm sure, some exceptions to this rule, where the words are absolutely crucial to making the song compelling. But not too many, I don't think.
jimjoyce25
I don't know about rock lyrics not able to be poetry. Some of Joni Mitchell's lyrics I have read to others as stand alone poetry. From her albums Blue, Court and Spark and Hejira, these lyrics hold their own.
Great poetry may not make for great lyrics, either. Synergy between words and music, when it happens, is a great thing. The music of John Hiatt, Dar Williams, and Marshall Crenshaw (to pick 3 off the top of my head) might be appealling on its own, but it's great enhanced by their word craft. Patti Smith produces a very different kind of synergy, Brian Eno yet another.

Each of these artists produces words that might not qualify as great poetry, but IMHO each does produce wonderful lyrics.

Marty

"Sweet Regina's gone to China, Newsweek on her knee. While far below, the curlews call from strangely stunted trees."

Brian Eno's wonderful lyric ain't notable poetry in my book, but it's a near perfect lyric
If you are asking me to choose one over the other - it would be music vs lyrics - for sure. In general, I prefer instrumentals to songs, given the option. To my mind, words tend to anchor the song. Music without words....that's something magical.
Probably 90% of the time I hear the human voice as a musical instrument with almost no attention to the actual lyrics. Funny a few years a go my girlfriend asked why I spent so much time listening to sad songs. She thought I was so engrossed in the language of the musician when I was actually completly oblivious to what was being said.

My 19 year old son is a budding and blues boogie woogie musician. He writes with and without lyrics. I listen to his lyrics but still hear his voice as a musical instrument.

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