What's the deal with the Machina Dynamica Clock?

“I explained how I proved that this thing does work and it was not because I wanted it to.”

So funny. Freemand, you guessing where your wife places little clocks does not constitute proof that the clocks work. You merely demonstrating an overactive imagination.

Little clocks cannot affect sound – they do not affect the power line supplies, vibration, temperature, airborne noise, RFI (and EMI) or acoustics. That I can prove by measuring lack of changes in above.

I can however, prove that items such acoustic panels, cables, interconnects do effect sound. I do that by measuring and I can (many times) hear the effect also.

There is no black magic in audio, everything that effect sound has a 100% rational explanation.

Regards
Paul

Paul,

You are a little off the deep end!

My guessing where my wife placed the clock in the house or out of the house 25 times right does prove they made a sonic difference.

Where your way off the deep end is my ability of guessing a perfect 25 times of the clocks placement is an overactive imagination! YOU CAN'T EASILY GUESS 25 TIMES RIGHT OUT OF MERE LUCK! Or at least the odds are so bad of getting it right 25 times. I would have kept going to guess 100 times right of the clocks placement, but my wife would have slapped me by about the 29th time!!

Paul, my only question (and I think you will dance around it or ignore it) is why is guessing its location without knowing where its put so easy and could do it 100 times.....if I had 40 hours to waste.

Freemand, my feet are on very solid ground. You can guess million times, it “proves” nothing.

What control did you use? Did your wife switch between clocks and something else? I'm guessing not.

Could you not hear your wife open the door when she put the clock outside? Unless you're hard of hearing it entirely possible that you could hear your front door.

How do you know the observed change was due to the clock?

Was anybody around to corroborate your tests? I'm guessing not.

Did the voltage remain consistent in your mains? Did you even bother to measure that?

How do you confirm the observed changes are not psychoacoustic? Did you attempt any non-subjective testing/measurement at all?

What is your hypothesis? Why does a $5 clock effect your sound? What is the physics behind this phenomena?

So your flawed observations is proof? Give me a break.

Do some research on “scientific method”. There are established procedures for establishing proof for a hypotheses. The only thing you have managed to prove is that you paid $200 for a $5 clock.

I can guarantee you that irrespective of placement of clock in your house, there will be zero measurable differences in you system. I'll bring whatever equipment you want me to bring – spectrum analyzer, SPL meter, accelerometer, thermometer, oscilloscope, whatever you want. We will find no change because the only change is in your imagination. (and your credit card).

There is not one tweak on this planet that is not measurable and does not have a sound scientific explanation and reason. In short, there is nothing that travels into you ears that is not based on physics and cannot be explained.

Geoff Kaitt cannot explain any of the crap he sells.

Regards
Paul

I will not even bother with you anymore Paul. You so have a biased mind and closed heart to hear ANYTHING other then what YOU decided in your mind you want to believe.

If you believe in something so much you will believe ........guess what, thats what your doing.

Yes, the test did prove it and if you don't want to believe me go ahead and believe what you want.

You remind me of an atheist hell bent on living his life to prove there is no God. Even if there was you already told your mind so many times and closed it to anything else.

Of course my wife did not change the clock out with anything. It's easy, the clock was taken out and then taken back in the house. Change it with something would not make sense. I also have a soundproofed home theater with a solid core and sealed door. I hear nothing other then my wife yelling that she made the change. I'm oblivious to what she did.

You seem to be an angry guy that needs science and explanations to all things in this world to enjoy audio kind of guy!!!!

If anyone want's to be reasonable and dialog thats cool, but I have nothing more Paul to chat with you cause this is not going to be reasonable dialog by any means and don't desire to cause fights on here.

Lets chat audio with other passionate audio dudes in fun!

+++ If you believe in something so much you will believe ........guess what, thats what your doing.+++

and

+++ You remind me of an atheist +++

So am I the non believer or am I the believer? You are attributing both to me. (I personally lean towards non believer if that's the same to you)

+++ You so have a biased mind and closed heart to hear ANYTHING other then what YOU decided in your mind you want to believe.+++

Actually, I believe what physics tells me. I build amps as a hobby, and I always found physics to be a better guide to building than faith. The science surrounding audio is quite fascinating and really enhances my enjoyment of the hobby. There is nothing quite like listening and tweaking your own creations.

+++ Yes, the test did prove it +++

You are confusing your beliefs with proof. To prove something you need a controlled environment, corroboration, objective measuring, a hypothesis etc. etc. You just don't.

+++ You seem to be an angry guy that needs science and explanations to all things in this world to enjoy audio kind of guy!!!!+++

I don't see why a factual explanations should be considered a bad thing for audio.

+++ have nothing more Paul to chat with you cause this is not going to be reasonable dialog +++

Your choice Freemand. My apologies that facts and sound scientific reasoning upset you. Maybe if refrain from claiming you have single handedly debunked science you won't be called out for it?

I dunno, just a suggestion on my part.

Regards
Paul