Bass--How much is too much?


I have been into this hobby for over 25 years and have many many systems, amps, speakers, etc, and the one common thing they all had was that low end bass was either non-existant or was very subtle. It seems with most high end systems, the goal is mid-range purity over the amount of low-end energy. In the past, I have had systems tweaked to the point which vocals were rich that brought on emotional connections with the music, but without low-end bass energy, which can bring on a physical connection as well.

My system uses the Celestion SL700 SE speakers with the Celestion SL6000 Subwoofer system. Listening to this set-up, I have so much low-end energy which I have never had in the past 25 years. The low-end is clean, it does not distort the Mid-range purity.

I am a member of the Bay Area Audiophile society and through there have been able to listen to a considerable number of other peoples systems. None of them had systems with bass which could be phyiscally felt, none had a subwoofer. Bass notes could be heard and localized, but not felt.

I guess my point is, that I have grown accustomed to high-end systems which bass was merely used to subtly fill in the gap. I keep asking myself if my set-up now with loads of bass which i can feel is wrong. I have had a few other audiophiles come over and listen and they too are not accustomed to the amount of low-end energy which my Celestion 6000 subs put out.

I have heard many audiophiles mention that because of the huge problems integrating a sub into a 2 channel setup, they tend to not use a sub, is this the reason why many forgo the search to integrate low end bass into their systems?
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If you listen to a live band in a club and you will notice there are lots of highs as in crashing cymbals and lots of lows as in bass guitar + bass drum. As long as there is a balance its perfectly OK even though it is very loud. There is too much bass only if it overpowers (drowns) the mids and the highs of your system. Sub-bass is sugar and cream of music. Lots of people are quite happy to have their coffee black with a lot less sugar.
I'm a jazz-lover so I listen to Coltrane, Miles, Monk, Rollins, etc. This is of course all acoustic bass and often not very strong, so I definitely use 2 subs in my setup, but I don't turn them up much.
Justlisten:

Chesky Records CHE151 Stereo& Surround Set-up disc in tracks 14,15 and 16 has guidelines and tests for setting up the sub level. Maybe you can consider this as an additional tool to determine if your sub level is too high.

I concur with previous posters that many times sub level tends to be set too high.

Took a peek at your system but pictures show former speakers you had. Is the room the same?
Mlsstl, you are giving clues to where you live... I can give hints as to where i grew up - the 5000-odd pipe organ I 'tickled the ivories' (actually, the ebonies) on when I was in high school (I pretended to take lessons, but it was really more of me trying to learn how to play Max Reger's Introduction and Passacaglia, which 20-odd years after I first heard it, is still my favorite organ piece) was replaced in 2005, much to my chagrin (great, great mechanical Rieger organ with about 100 ranks, and 70 stops on four manuals and a pedal (including a 32ft wooden flue pipe if I remember correctly)). It was replaced with another Rieger, with more advanced technology (makes it much easier to maintain), and apparently was designed very specifically for the space. The organist, however, is still the same as when I was in high school and is, from everything I hear, is one of the best out there.

Listening to the big wooden pipes from close up gives you an idea of what real bass power means, and a big pipe organ with lots of variety in stops is a joy to discover. I miss that now as I live in a place without many pipe organs.
Do go along with those who feel that live acoustic music is the basis to evaluate the way bass should be reproduced by one's system, I am reminded of the joke about the 'audiophile' attending a live symphonic orchestra concert and complaining that there was a lack of bass!
I am satisfied with the bass replicating what I hear in live concerts, organ included. If your system can do organ well, then any perceived lack of bass (or too much bass)in other recordings is in the recording or the music.

Bob P.