I usually give this Jazz thread a quick glance due to it's often stated preference for music from the past being the the be-all and end-all of the genre (which I don't agree with). Usually it's a conversation between the same 1/2 dz. guys that's occasionally interesting, which is perfectly fine, some discussion is better than no discussion, right? But than sometimes it'll veer into truly groan-worthy territories like the reality of Africa's influence on Jazz, or Nazis, or this latest discussion about Fusion. To try to use Michael Brecker and Dave Leibman as examples of whatever negative point yr trying to make about Pop or European Jazz truly displays a fundamental misunderstanding of modern Jazz, hardly worthy of being part of a thread that has the words 'Jazz Aficionado' in it's title. I mean, you wanna use Kenny G, or Nagee, or the Rippingtons as negative stereotypes, have at it! But Michael and David? As usual, it's hard to tell with R2id whether he's truly as ignorant as he's trying to portray himself or is he simply trollin' (again!). Anyhow, I'll let you guys get back to it, have fun!;)