Capioorn pink. Forget the Classic. |
There is not a true audiophile reording of the Allman Brothers live at the Filmore east.Every version relys on a master tape wich was poorly miked and must have a terrible mixer and a very stoned recording crew. You just have to enjoy it warts and all.It's all in your isn't it?
BTW I have heard bootlegs which spank the engineered. |
I can't help you with your lp selection but I have to disagree with Mechans. I bought the redbook reissue a couple of years ago called "The Fillmore Concerts" and it sounds fantastic with lots of air and good bass. I don't know if it is "audiophile" but it is certainly one of the better sounding live rock cd's I own. If they have this version on vinyl I bet it also sounds good.
I never get tired of hearing this concert. The brothers play loose and tight simultaneously if you know what I mean. To me , it has alot of the same feel as "Kind of Blue" which I understand was very influntial to Duane. |
The pink Capricorn smokes the Classic.
However, like "Live At Leeds", the charm of this recording lies in the energy and intensity of the performance, not the sonics.
I've not heard this recording in any digital form. |
I gotta agree with Lokie. The Fillmore Concerts in a great set of disc's. I have it and the SACD "Live At The Fillmore". After getting them I sold my very rare red book MFSL LATF copy. It just didn't sound good any more.
The Fillmore Concerts is re-engineered and re-mastered. Tom Dowd and Bill Levenson names are all over the place. Heck the liner note are worth the price. There are slight differences/variations in almost every song from the original LP and tunes not included that package. For the first time you can hear "Whipping Post" and "Mountain Jam" together back to back, the way it was played. |
I disagree with "The Fillmore Concerts" being a great disc. And I say that because you can barely hear Berry Oakley's bass in the mix. As a person, who saw the "orginal" Allman Brothers on three different occasions, with the last being a show in a similar size theater in Fayetteville, NC the Saturday before they recorded at the Fillmore East, I can tell you for a fact, his bass and the bottom that he provided was an intregal part of the Allman Brothers sound. and for some reason that got mixed way to low on the "The Fillmore Concerts", other than that it was a good recording.
btw Mechans, Tow Dowd was the producer on both the orginal "Live at the Fillmore East" and "The Fillmore Concerts".
Also, since Tom Dowd's name as got mentioned, I would highly recommend the DVD "Tom Dowd & the Language of Music". It's facinating and entertaining documentary, and Tom Dowd really did know how to capture "lighting in a bottle". |
Vegasears,
How would you compare the SACD with the The Fillmore Concerts? I had the Fillmore concerts & it did sound
really great. |
I will look for it. All I have ever heard are pretty much reissues of the original engineering. |
Vinylvin
The Fillmore Concerts is the best. No contest. This thread has got me thinking about finding a vinyl copy. |
I have the Capricorn and a copy of the Nautilus Super Disc and I found the Nautilus to be the better copy,in any case still one of the greatest live recordings ever.steveboeck |
talk about az great 'jam' record....any recording on cd or vinyl will make you forget all the audiophile bs....a classic in every sense. |
Amen Jaybo,
audiophileizem is a fun hobby, but music comes first for me.
cause first there was a mountain dun dun dnuua da. |
Jaybo
you speakith the truth brother. The words audiophile and Fillmore don't belong in the same sentence. I try not to ask too much of my rock albums... just not too much compression and some thickness in the midbass and I'm usually happy. I was thinking about what cleanehippy said about the lack of bass as I listened to the disc in my car today. I suppose Barry is a little light in the mix but lets face it, Duane and Dickey are the stars of the show here. Also, with three drummers, Barry, and Duanes deep organ notes, there is plenty of low frequency drive.
I know this started out as a vinyl request, so I apologize for the following cd recommendation (you may find this on vinyl though). I just picked up a remastered, deluxe edition cd of Eat a Peach that is also a big improvement over my original. This is a two disc version with the bonus cd titled "The Allman Brothers Band: The Final Fillmore East Concert, June 27, 1971." Another pretty good sounding live disc with some great songs.
I also highly recommend (I seriously doubt youll find this on vinyl) a live 4 disc cd called "The Allman Brothers Band 12/31/73 Cow Palice San Francisco Ca. with special guests Boz Scaggs, Jerry Garcia and Bill Kreutzman". The title says it all. Sonics are marginal but as you can imagine the back and forth between Betts and Garcia is some serious fun. The best song by far is a Duaneless/ instrumental version of Whippin Post. If youre a fan of Jerry Garcia and the Allman Brothers, which kind of go hand in hand, you will thoroughly enjoy this. |
"I know this started out as a vinyl request, so I apologize for the following cd recommendation (you may find this on vinyl though). I just picked up a remastered, deluxe edition cd of Eat a Peach that is also a big improvement over my original. This is a two disc version with the bonus cd titled "The Allman Brothers Band: The Final Fillmore East Concert, June 27, 1971." Another pretty good sounding live disc with some great songs."
Lokie,
Have to agree as I have also have this CD. btw, have to say the "remastered, deluxe edition cd" of Live at Fillmore East CD sound every bit as good. I actually like it better than the "Fillmore Concerts", as it's actually closer to what the Allman Brothers sound like live. btw, there are several "archival" concerts of the Allman Brothers Band available. Sound quality varies, none of which would be considered the least bit "audiophile" but nevertheless, illustrate the development of the Allman Brothers in those early years. The "Stony Brook 9/19/71" for example has an 18 minute "Dreams" and also, an 11 minute "Blue Sky", which I believe is the only recording of Duane playing that song live.
Credit to these "archival" recordings (which were working recording for the "band's use") was done by Michael Callahan, who was the Allman Brother's orginal "sound man". Apparently, these recording were lost for many years, when during a remodeling project, a box of "reel to reel" tapes were found. Besides the "Stony Brook" show, other "archival" releases (so far) include:
Boston Common 8/17/71
Nassau Coliseum 5/1/73
Macon, GA 2/11/72
American University 12/13/70
Anyway, Michael Callahan just recently passed away. R.I.P. Michael.
btw, if anyone interested in these "archival" recording here's a link where they can be purchased.
http://www.hittinthenote.com/ |
Great link, cleaneduphippy, thanks. |
This record to me has a horror story. I purchased three copies from THE WHERHOUSE when it first came out back in the day. The reason was because on side three it skipped in three different spots. I kept returning them until the third one didn't skip. The master stamper on this lot or recordings was bad because the skips were in the exact same spots on the first two albums. I since have purchased a DBX encoded Natalius 1/2 speed recording and it sounds stunning, |
