Anyone familiar with Canare 4s11 speaker wire sound and break in time
Hi, I just bought some canare 4s11 for a second system. My main speaker cables are Audience au24 and in another system TG Audio or also known as Bob Crumps silver solid core wire. I've heard the break in can be long. I hooked them up last night they sounded pretty good but now its gone south so I hooked it up to a receiver in a spare room and running in 24/7. I've heard 250 hours to 500.
I know it's very inexpensive wire but heard a lot of good things for the money, and just wanted to give it a try, hell $1.18 a foot free shipping. It is going to be used with tube pre and amp and tube dac streaming only. What are you impressions of this wire and did you find break in long and does it change back and forth during break in? Thanks for any insight
Give it some time. I say 300 hundred hours which is crazy. In my opinion Canare, including their digital and interconnects (balanced mic cable) all have a similar sound. I find the Canare a little on the warmer side but still a fairly revealing cable. Maybe not going to have the openness or air of higher priced cable but it does nothing wrong. Be surprised if you play a signal through them for at least a couple hundred hours you will not be pleased. Don’t know they require so many hours, but they do.
It took all of 400 hours for my 4S11 cables to settle in. I ran them 24/7 for 20 days. Yes, some days they will sound great and then not. Once you get to the 200 hour range, all the changes from there on in will be for the better. Canare also told me 400 hours as well. I already have a thread on Canare 4S11 I started in December2019. I concluded it in early 2020. If you read through it, you will see how they sounded at different intervals.
Stick with it, they are the best thing since sliced bread.
Thanks, I'll let them run a few weeks and try them again. I've got ask how do you know which direction to break them in, there's no arrow. I just ran them in direction of the writing toward the speaker if that really matters.
Anyone run 2, 4s11 or a pair of them, (total 8 conductors)in shot gun form. If so I could order another set tomorrow. If 2 is better than one why not it's only another $20 and can break them in together and be done with it.
Con are It’s decent for the money but nothing special vs upper end cables like Wireworld Eclipse which is well balanced and on the low side for Med priced Audiophile cables.
Anyone run 2, 4s11 or a pair of them, (total 8 conductors)in shot gun form. If so I could order another set tomorrow. If 2 is better than one why not it’s only another $20 and can break them in together and be done with it.
I was at a friend’s place who was needing to relocate his Pass X350 driving the tops (waaay too much power!) of Vandersteen Model 5s a number of years ago. Long story short he replaced 8’ of AudioQuest Kilimanjaro with 20’ of Canare 4S11. To initially hear the vast degradation in downgrading spkr cables the system was played with the cable swap on just one side to evaluate. Needless to say, the sound was disappointing as expected with a huge deviation in balance, dynamics, resolution and tonality in the system between the two now dissimilar loudspeakers. Just for the hell of it, it was decided to double run “Shotgun” both sets of Canare on the one side against the single Kilimanjaro on the opposite channel and the improvement was remarkable. On the bi-wire loving Vandersteens with longish cable runs, the deck may have been stacked, but IMO double runs of the 4S11 in this case was a bloody bargain.
In my upgrade path, I tested Audioquest Rocket 44s and Kimber 12 TCs.
The Rocket 44s and 12 TCs demonstrated to me cables made a different but not in a good way. I appreciated how Kimber treated me so I tested out the Bifocals and I couldn't give them back. I gave my brother the Canare 4S11s so he could enjoy them.
I view Canares as a toyota or honda - they are quality and provide consistent performance. If you want a Mercedes, Porshe or Rolls you will pay more but not everyone wants or needs that 'more'.
Thank boothroyd that all I need to know. I'm going to order some tomorrow and run it shotgun and see what happens. $1.18 a foot how can you go wrong. I'll break them in and compare to my AU24 SE and JPS superconductor 3 and if it even comes close I may rethink my spending on cable. While I'm ordering I may buy some to build interconnects and power if they offer it, any suggestions on which to buy, mostly due to curiosity and I have the parts laying around to do it, thanks everyone for your insight on these 4s11 cables.
I may buy some to build interconnects and power if they offer it, any suggestions on which to buy, mostly due to curiosity and I have the parts laying around to do it
There are a lot better DIY’er out there on this forum with more experience than myself however FWIW, Mogami W2549 is a favorite of mine (especially in phono cables!) as an interconnect and Mogami W2919 (AWG 14 x 6) for a 10AWG power cord. Halloween colors (Orange/black) for gnd. Yellow/Red for + Hot & green/brown for neutral is a favorite recipe.
I had that before I just let it run for a week 175 hours. if you truly want to enhance your whole system clean all contacts off with isopropyl alcohol, then a great new contact enhancer Which too Rick Schultz of High Fidelity Audio cables 2 years to develop the 1260- 3D contact enhancer under Acessories on Audiogon they now sell small bottles $349 delivered ,enough to do 2 fully systems easily, you even use for power cords ,truly makes even modest systems sounds much better throughout ,just give a week runin , I have been using fir 2 months now on a reference setup and. Smaller $4 k setup a Very noticeable upgrade.A no brainer in value per $$ spent !!
I bought a pair of Canare 4s11 biwired speaker cables about two weeks ago. I really like them. I've spent far more for cables and not enjoyed them as much as I do these. They're excellent cables. As to break in, we'll see. I'm just listening and for once am not second-guessing a purchase.
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