Counterfeit Chinese Cables


I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

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Can't comment on authentic Nordost Odin 2 as have no experience with it, but as I posted upthread, I compared the Chinese Odin Gold RCA interconnects (2 sets) in a friends system directly with authentic/real Nordost Valhalla V1.

In that system the Chinese OG replaced the Valhalla 1 running from an Allnic Phono Preamp (can't recall the model number but it's higher up in the Allnic range and retailing at around $10K I believe) to an Allnic L-10000 linestage and then from the L-10000 to a Bryston 14B Cubed power amp. Turntable was a Clearaudio Innovation with Universal Tonearm and Clearaudio's top of the line MM cartridge. Speakers were big B&W floorstander Diamonds. A very nice system. 

This was not a blind test but rather sighted. There were 4 of us there and the 3 others felt the Valhalla 1 was a bit more detailed (but in no way really embarrassing the Chinese Odin Gold). That was possible but I felt that the detail may have been more distortion related than real and I thought the Chinese Odin Gold had a much quieter, blacker background and sounded noticeably smoother, more refined and more natural than the real Valhalla 1. 

And that was before I cryoed the Chinese Neardost and had it burned in on an Audiodharma cable cooker, which improved it further (more extended at both frequency extremes, more detailed midrange while still retaining all the smoothness, and a much wider soundstage). I really felt that the real Valhalla 1 would end up giving me listening fatigue over longer sessions. 

Cost on the Neardost Odin Gold for two pairs of RCA's: about $80. Cost for the two sets of real Valhalla 1 purchased a few years ago used: about $3,000 as I recall. 

The Chinese Odin Gold was not only competitive: I wouldn't trade it even for the real Valhalla, unless of course I was going to pawn off the real Valhalla on some poor unsuspecting sucker for some ridiculous price and then just buy another couple of sets of the Chinese OG. 

Just another experience that those with an open mind might want to consider.

I have no experience with any Aliexpress Neardosts other than the Odin Gold RCA interconnects so the rest of the stuff may well be junk, but I really like the Chinese Odin Golds, and sold off some much more expensive IC's-but not in the same cost league as the Nordost Valhalla's-after buying just one set of the fake Odin Golds to experiment with. I then bought 5 more sets to completely outfit both systems in the house and pocketed about $500 after selling 2 pairs of reasonably well known IC's that I was using in the main system from a North American manufacturer.

FWIW, I have a couple of friends who are also using the Audiocrast ribbon speaker cables mentioned above who also really like them. I think I'd take a run at those if I felt like changing speaker cables, as opposed to the fake Odin Gold speaker cables which seem to get a bit more of a lukewarm review. But I'm reasonably happy with my current speaker cables so will sit tight. 

 

I've just ordered the chinese "Valhalla" speaker cable. They call it "Valhalla" but it's in fact an exact copy of the Heimdall speaker cable. The wire seems identical to the  point that one could believe both come from the same factory. Of course it isn't the case.

They are supposed to be exceptionally good for the price and even in absolute terms.

There is no fake branding on the cable, no sign of the Nordost logo, just an identical wire. 

Looking forward to receive it!

The actual Nordost Valhalla was replaced by Odin which was replaced by Odin 2, I bought (Ali version) after quite a few months, I tried the Odin 2 Gold, which added some much needed warmth in my all SS system. I also have the Odin digital between transport and DAC. It is amazing, but would love to try Odin Gold, but no one seems to make it

Well, my "Valhalla/Heimdall" speaker cables have arrived 10 days ago;

they are not fully broken In yet but I can already say those are the best speaker cables I've tried in my system. Great stuff!!!

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