There’s a large group of people that think measurements are king. I think Amir is milking that group for $$ , recognition and ego. Maybe he’s Julian Hersch reincarnated! Or he’s simply on the Fox News payroll lololol
Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?
It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.” And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything? For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think.
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is.
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WHY DONT YOU ANSWER ON THE MATTER ABOUT HEARING ?
I dont neeed gear measurements here... I never doubt that they are USEFUL to know... What i dont accept is you pretense and claims to debunk hearing experience with these simplistic tools... Ears brain work in non symmetrcal time domain in a non linear fashion and cannot be explain by Fourier Methods algorythms... Then YOU CANNOT LAUGH AND PUT ALL AUDIOPHILES LISTENING IN THE SAME TRASH BIN... do you understand? You can give your gear measures information yes we thank you for that ; but you cannot mock human hearing experience with your claims about gear and your tools to measure it... REAL PSYCHO-ACOUSTIC SCIENCE debunk your claim here... |
"ANSWER this physicist who design high end audio as a hobby without ad hominem attack this time..." Did you not watch the video I provided where I go through every one of his tests and demonstrate why they are all completely wrong? Here it is again: Scientific Proof of Measurable Difference in Audio Cables? Paper Review I go on for 41 minutes breaking down every claim and test in his paper. Please don't keep demanding that I answer you when I have already done so. |
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@nicsadler I have no issue with ASR as a whole and it’s message or what the goal is. I think it’s debunked lots of myths in audio and am thankful for it. However Amir’s responses to these questions and how he cherry picks what to respond to leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. That is bias by the very definition of it. The way I see it is there are three points in this triangle. The ASR folks, who want to be science drive and asses everything as robot in an anechoic chamber. The Audiogon people who listen with their hearts and maybe eyes sometimes. Then there is Gearspace.com of people who are in the professional world and do this for a living. I’ve run many systems in my home space that are meant for professional use in some instances and even the "pros" want different things with non flat responses or the flattest speakers in the world don’t translate mids. There is nuance to everything and I realize the above buckets are over generalizations. Amir can say what he wants. I have no issue with any of it. I have no issue with him selling speakers he reps on his website. What I do have issue with is him saying its a totally free space and attacking other reviewers on his website because it doesnt match his strict view of science, or he feels they are monetizing like Erin. He goes on to claim he doesnt need the money, and doesnt make money from the site despite the fact that I guarantee that is in no way true. He accepts donations. If you’re gonna base your credibility on hard facts, don’t contradict yourself and then not answer to it. With the cherry on top being he acts like a jerk much of the time. True heroes admit they could be wrong, and are open to interpretation. IMO. I haven’t one time throughout this entire conversation say hey there is validity to what someone is saying. It’s: "Nope you’re wrong!" That is ridiculous. P.S. Libel always is the last point people go to. This is an online forum. Not a court of law. Better call in Clarence Thomas. |
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