Sunnyboy hit it right on the head: The potentials for differences in personal response to a given component or tweak can be as different as night and day. I've said it many times; it's all about synergy & personal preferences, combined with one's experience and expectations. Jafox (thanks for the preface, by the way, John) seems to have had a wider experience than me with other ARC components, whereas my experience is only with the one ARC pre (as well as with the GNS mod of that pre). Obviously we both are using the gear within distinctivly different systems/listening rooms, with likely very different preferences and expectations. Ultimately everything you read here is a generalization at best and should be taken with a bag full of salt (my own included). Your own ears are the very best guage of all, period! Anyone who tells you different is standing knee deep in manure! There are no aboslutes. Just like there are folks who do not recognize a great Zinfandel to be "superior" to wine dispensed from a box, there are those who hear no difference in listening to music through a boom box or a $50K system (perhaps they 'hear' a difference, but they just don't care, and or don't recognize that difference as being "superior"). It's all relative. Like Jafox, Steve Huntley also has much experience with ARC gear having worked there for many years. I emailed him recently to confirm that I'd quoted him correctly. He wrote back and did add that his favorite ARC pre's (non-reference) were the LS2B and the LS5, and that he prefers both with his mods. I can certainly agree with him on the LS2B, and have no doubt his mod of the LS5 would kick that pre up a notch. Jafox rightly does point out that he is comparing the LS5 at an average of twice the (used) cost of the LS2B, so I'm not surprised that the LS5 may indeed be a better pre in comparison, and do appreciate understanding what may be some of the reasons why (I am not saying that just because it cost more it does sound better, but I'd certainly expect it to, especially given that is from the same manufacturer and designed later). I still stand by my own (personal) experience that, for the price you pay on the used market, the LS2B does a damn fine job in my experience, and has mated well with a diversity of components. As I mentioned, with my 300B SET's I had the same experience of the LS2B as Jafox describes (cold, analytical, and not musical at all). But that has not been the case in the majority of other amps I've paired it off with. Also, the tube choice made a BIG difference in my experience. It may be interesting to note that the folks reviewing the LS2 on AudioReview are pretty happy with it too as it holds a 4.89/5 rating there with 9 reviews. Further mixed input can be found on AudioAsylum. Doing a search there you will find some opinions that fall more in line with what Jafox opines, and I do respect his point of view, BTW. I have not listened to all of the ARC gear he mentions so cannot comment on the comparisons he offers beyond this. You are right Sunnyboy; it's a good forum and offers a diversity of input that helps point you in the right general direction at best, but can just as easily be misleading. Ultimately your own ears will be the best judge.