From my experience, direction does matter but no idea why.
Check out Audio Magic fuses. They replaced all my HiFi Tuning gold and supreme fuses ... better tone, bloom ... |
04-26-12: Tbg
Knghifi, I did try them. I found them smeared and midrange oriented. It sounds like the fuse is not broken in. When new, it sounds too sweet with emphasis in the mid but never smeared in my system. It takes 100+ hours for a fully break in. I have several friends using them with the same positive results. |
04-27-12: Tbg
They had at least a hundred hours on them. Nothing beats testing in your own system. |
If one spents thousands on a system, spending an extra $50 for a fuse is good ROI IMO. Worst case scenerio is out $50. |
In MF Shunyata Triton review, Caelin Gabriel invented the DTCD Analyzer that can measure anything that conducts current. He found even fuses measure differently. So theoretically fuses should sound differently in a component but like everything else, it's a function of the component.
In the PS Audio PerfectWave DAC II upgrade, fuses are one of changes. If all fuses sound the same, why bother changing the fuses? I'll let y'all draw your own conclusions. |
Every electrical part in every component has specified and/or measurable ranges of variation ("tolerances") Why raise the point in the article if the measurements are less than tolerance level? |
Every electrical part in every component has specified and/or measurable ranges of variation ("tolerances") for numerous electrical parameters, and measurable differences will exist even between two parts of the same type that were manufactured at the same time by the same manufacturer. That applies to transistors, tubes, integrated circuits, resistors, capacitors, diodes, inductors, transformers, fuses, etc. A good design will minimize or eliminate sensitivity to those differences, within the range over which they can be expected to occur. Even if parts from different manufacturer that measure the same, will sound different in most cases. A Sovtek tube will sound different from a Amperex? Mundorf and Duelund cap? Possibly a Radio Shack fuse and HiFi Tuning in some components/systems?? |
But that does not mean that parts which measure different in some respect will necessarily sound different, which was my initial point. As I said, it depends on the amount of the difference, and on the design of the component in which the part is used. And of course on the type of part, the function it performs in the particular design, and on what parameter is being measured. Agreed, plus associate components in the system ... endless possibilities. I'm ONLY sharing my experiences and NOT trying to convince anybody anything. |
2. A fuse that sounds bad is probably defective and should be replaced I've had ~40+ Sovtek / EH 6922s over the years and always sound bad compared to the Tele, Siemen, Amperex ... so I guess they were all probably DEFECTIVE. Also all my stock PCs sound bad compared to after market PCs so I guess they were all probably DEFECTIVE. ... Now it finally makes sense. Many Thanks! 4. Changing a fuse might change the sound in a hearable manner but i have no clue what tk expect if i change fuse a for fuse b. I will not be spending any time worrying about this because it just is not important to me. It's not very complicated and not good worrying about it, how about just use the one that's sounds better in YOUR component/system? If it doesn't work out and prefer stock, then no Starbucks for a week and sell it on Agon? 5. Science is not likely to offer clear guidelines for determining sound of fuses anytime soon. If i pick a new fuse it wlll have to be done based on intuition. I am ok with that. I think i will survive my next fuse change ordeal in good shape.
6. Others will also have to rely on their intuition to make these big life decisions as well unless they know of some reliable scientific basis for picking a good sounding fuse that i am not aware of. Like everything in this crazy hobby, there are no best so just buy/use what is best to you? |
Richie, I think the boys are saying your results are only relevant to you and your system. Everything is system dependent ... what works in yours will probably not in mine. |
Ccstevenson, I use both Nano Liquid and Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme fuses. I find the only difference between them is the Nano Liquid fuse adds a nice bloom to the sound that sometimes is desireable. |
Tbg, I had a full loom of SR Apex ICs and SC for years and impressed so will try their fuses. I'm a simple person so will just use what sounds best to me. Don't care to measuring them, white paper, if I'm drunk, placebo effect, full moon ... too much!!!
BTW, You're the 1st I've heard found Audio Magic fuse lacking clarity so I guess nothing beats a home audition. With my current system configuration and don't need the extra bloom, I'm using all HiFi Tuning Supremes. |
12-23-12: Polyglot
>>Avatar is the AMR North American distributor that I contacted. Still no reply.
Ditto, after sending a couple of reminder emails and voice mails I gave up and ordered Liquid Nanos, hopefully bettering my HiFi Supremes.
Polyglot (Threads | Answers | This Thread) Interesting, I thought they only blow one off inquiring warranty work. Marqmike, from my experience, Liquid Nanos adds a bloom to the sound compared to Supremes that is advantageous in some systems. |
If a buss fuse costs a buck,and an AMR Gold costs $20.00,which sounds almost as good as the Hifi supremes that I used which cost $80.00,my suggestion is that the AMR fuse is a good value compared to the Supreme fuse, which I still feel is better,but is it 4 times better than the AMR and 80 times better than a buss fuse?Let me know if that's your logic. For me, $60 difference is RELATIVELY a drop in the bucket so if it's ONLY 2X better, I would go for the Supremes ... No brainer! Now if it's $6000 difference ... got to sleep on it. Plus you get Supremes from PCX 20% off in their never ending sales. |
If a buss fuse costs a buck,and an AMR Gold costs $20.00,which sounds almost as good as the Hifi supremes that I used which cost $80.00,my suggestion is that the AMR fuse is a good value compared to the Supreme fuse, which I still feel is better,but is it 4 times better than the AMR and 80 times better than a buss fuse?Let me know if that's your logic. Another perspective ... let's say you want to upgrade your amp, pre, cables ... or speakers with a 1.5X improvement, will it cost > $60? My guess is probably YES into the thousandsssss ... For $60, you choose an INFERIOR component/sound??? I wish all my upgrades ONLY cost $60. NO-BRAINER!!!!! |
A fuse in the wrong direction should sound noticeably harsher and more sour. In my VAC SigMKIIa pre, wrong direction sounds similar to out of phase and not harsh. Image was fat, rounded and limited extension in both directions. |
