Grado Master Reference 1


So I'm piecing together a new system and am brand-spanking new to the AgoN community and was wondering what people's thoughts were on carts. I'm running a Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum with the KT 120 upgrade from the KT 88/ 90s, Vandersteen 2ce Sig II's, the venerable VPI Scout and Morrow IC's and bi-wires. I'm also, for the time being, using the built in phono stage on the Cronus and I've rolled the tube to a Gold Lion 12AU7 from the EH it came with. As far as MM carts go, I understand people either love or hate the Grado Master Ref 1. What do you guys think? And let me know if this is in the wrong thread category. Again, newbie alert.
curtisbaby
Grados are musical cartridges, although not the last word in detail retrieval. They can hum in the wrong turntable, but if it works in yours, happy listening.
Grado is my favorite cartridge. A cartridge is the most personal item in the equipment lineup, it's like a woman. If you're in love with the woman of your choice, that's all that counts;however, I will tell you that the cartridge you have is among the best in the world for what it delivers.
I've been using a Master Statement 1 in rotation with an Ortofon Kontrapunkt H for the last year. Before that, I used the Reference Sonata and before that, the Platinum. Grado's have a uniquely sweet and harmonious mid-range and that accounts for the bulk of their appeal in my opinion. It's not that their bass and treble are overtly deficient, it's just that the frequency extremes aren't their forte. In comparison with my Ortofon, the Grado's bass is a little more mellow and less taut, the leading edges of notes are less defined, brass instruments have a little less "blat" and metal, and the highest frequencies have a tad less sparkle and extension. However, the Grado's have a really nice gestalt and "rightness" about their way with music. If you want a cartridge that you can settle back and sink into the music with in a non-analytical immersion, Grado might be your bag. However, all your components seem to be of the "less analytical" school and the Grado might be too much of a good thing. I was less enamored of the Grados on my "warmer" VPI Scout than I was on the more incisive and taut Acoustic Signature Final Tool I use now. On the VPI Scout, I preferred a Garrot Optim FGS by a fair margin over the Grado Sonata FWIW (You have to order that marque from Australia, Decibel Audio is a good dealer.) It's repeated ad nauseum, but balance and synergy do have to be worked out to everyone's idiosyncratic preferences.

Grado's are known to "hum" on Rega TT's. I have both, and the hum only occurs after the last cut when the cartridge is over the center of the table. There is absolutely no hum when the cartridge is over the record grooves. As I recall, there is hum on the older Rega's before they changed the motor.
Very good feedback guys. Thanks so much. I'm mostly asking because I've got a chance to buy one cheap, from a friend who has only used it a couple of times and just doesn't go with his system. I guess I'll just have him ship it to me to test it out for a bit. I totally agree It definitely is something one knows when they hear it. Guess I'll give it a try. Cheers!
If I could get one of those cheap I'd sure jump on it. If it doesn't work out and you want to continue exploring high output MM/MI carts, look into the Audio Technica AT150MLX. It's not voluptuous the way the Grados are, but it is very transparent, dynamic, excellent at low level detail esp. for a MM, with excellent clarity and transients. Because it extracts so much music from the grooves I also find it to be *very* musically involving. And the stylus is user-replaceable for around $225. It was The Absolute Sound's Cartridge of the Year for 2011.
I've read about the 150MLX and it does sound nice. I've used some AT carts in the past as I've been moving up in systems and have had some good experiences and some not-so-good, but most of the not-so-good were not-so-quality carts from years ago. Thanks for the info Johnnyb53.