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Check emotiva out. It's very good gear for very reasonable prices. Call them and they can help get you lined out with what you need. I am thinking a USP-1 with a UPA-200 and a set of their towers. This should bring you to about $1200 for a good starter system.

@Swampwalker my budget is next to none.

I should have about 1000 extra when when my tax return shows up on the 18th.

Idk if this helps at all or not but i do ave have a spare pioneer vsx-1015tx-k receiver. With some crap speakers.

I wouldnt mind piecing together the system. I have the TT and cart i like, i like my preamp. Just everything passed that.

If you are going from a phono stage directly into the YSP-1, you are relying on it to act as a line stage, amp & speaker. I'm thinking you are not going to get anything approaching what your TT can provide. I'd consider phono-pre to new integrated amp line level input to new speaker as the way to go. Give us a budget and maybe we can make recommendations.

@aceman: that's my dilemma.i think it might be time to either scrap the ysp-1 for the records. Or start piecing a completely new system. As i see no audio outs on the ysp-1 and pulling audio from my pioneer receivers audio out into the ysp-1 is creating sound lag i can seem to fix.

And yes the cambridge 640p is a solid state phono pre amp

Swampwalker, I think the 640p is a phono amp.

I do wonder if the Yamaha internal amp can be used for external speakers.

Jabbles180, The Yamaha sound bar is not going to give good sound, and needs to be replaced at some point. It is probably the reason your vinyl is bright.

You can do as you plan or save money for a integrated amp/receiver or preamp/amp and speakers. See if you can defeat the DSP.

If you have a budget, others can help you better with suggestions.

There are many directions to go from where you are now. Bandaids will seem like the way to go( ie. tube preamp) ,but you will be better off putting a nice low cost system together.

The Yamaha sound bar is a designed to substitute for multiple speakers to create a pseudo-surround set-up. It is not designed to optimize sound quality for 2 channel listening. You will almost certainly need different speakers and I would expect you would hear a substantial improvement in sound just w new speakers, using the amp in the Cambridge.

Thanks for all the help guys. I have a feeling my speaker system is my low point right now.

My system is set up like this:

My RP project.rpm5.1 goes into the upgraded campridge 640p with the upgraded sound chips and this goes into a yamaha ysp-1.

I did this as that is what i had around for a sound system in the front room where the vinyl is listened to the most.(plus allowing for the other inputs)

If im getting my information right the sound board on the ysp-1 is becoming my amp nullifying an added tube amp.

So, in order to marry this cambridge 640p and a tube amp i am guessing i have to dedicate a new speaker system to allow the pre amp and amp to get the sound im wanting wantingspecifically for the record player.

The warmth of the tube would be killed by the sound processor of the ysp-1, is this the correct thinking? Or, is my chain of equipment incorrect?

Jmcgrogan2,Very good point! Ive had good results with a tubed preamp and SS Amp as well.

I was wondering if anyone has "daisy chained" for the lack of a better term a tube preamp and a solid state amp.

Yes, many, many, many people have used a tube preamp with a solid state power amp. Just mind your impedence matching. Minimum recommended is 10:1 ratio of amplifier input impedence to preamp output impedence. The higher the ratio the better the results.

Since you seem to be a Cambridge fan, let's use the Cambridge Azur 651A Integrated Amplifier as an example. The amplifier section has an input impedence of 47 Kohms, so any preamp with a output impedence < 4700 ohms will work fine. Remember the higher ratio is better, so 20:1 is better than 10:1, which means a preamp with an output impedence of 1000 ohms will work even better with this amp.

Have fun!!

Have lost several pairs of speakers to tube pre's I am wary of them.

Using a tube pre-amp and solid state amp will give you some tube quality sound while maintaining solid bass output. This is a very common set-up. Pre-amp tubes can last much longer than power amp output tubes, so it is a good way to go. Also, it may be less expensive to upgrade a set of pre-amp tubes then power amp tubes. YMMV

"Yes, I suggest you attend some remedial English classes. Your writing, spelling, punctuation, and grammar are sorely lacking."

And yet his question was perfectly clear. So why the need to bang on him over style points? He wasn't writing an essay for a grade.

To answer the question, yes, many here have mated tube pre-amps to solid state power amps to excellent effect. How any particular combination will sound is very dependent upon the gear involved, and you will need to propose specific combinations to get more helpful responses.

If you want better tube sound get a tube pre and a tube AMP. The amp make more of a difference.

>> -any reading, knowledge, anything would be greatly appreciated <<

Yes, I suggest you attend some remedial English classes. Your writing, spelling, punctuation, and grammar are sorely lacking.

And yes, many have connected a tube preamp to a solid state amp. Check the archives here...

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