I’m thinking that if you have a pair of Legacy’s flagship 80K speakers with their Wavelet processor which in my experience is extremely quite your first step should be contacting Legacy. They can help you trouble shoot this issue better than a forum and without you going crazy trying a million things and getting frustrated.
Help in minimizing hiss
I’m wondering if all hiss can be removed, particularly with highly efficient speakers.
The hiss in my system is audible from about 4-5’ away when it’s silent in the house.
All gear is on a dedicated line I installed with new 12/3 romex to the panel with a 20 amp breaker.
I’m using all quality power cables and XLRs.
Rig:
Oppo 105 - Schitt Freya + - Legacy Wavelet DSP - Pass Labs X260.8 - Legacy Valor (101 dB sens)
Thanks for any input you may have,Scott
The hiss in my system is audible from about 4-5’ away when it’s silent in the house.
All gear is on a dedicated line I installed with new 12/3 romex to the panel with a 20 amp breaker.
I’m using all quality power cables and XLRs.
Rig:
Oppo 105 - Schitt Freya + - Legacy Wavelet DSP - Pass Labs X260.8 - Legacy Valor (101 dB sens)
Thanks for any input you may have,Scott
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Turned on the Pass amps first and there was almost no audible noise with my ear on the tweets Then I turned on the Wavelet and the hiss came back but not full volume Then the Freya in full tube mode and the hiss got a bit louder but not much Approximation:The Pass amps are less than 10% of the hissThe Wavelet is about 60% of itThe Freya (surprisingly) is only about 30% of the hiss Thanks again for all the help guys, it's greatly appreciated.I can live with a bit of hiss that is inaudible from 3' + but just want to be sure I'm doing all I can to keep the signal path clean/clear.Scott |
@erik_squires I do have absorptive panels covering much of the wall behind the speakers and a 2'X4' treatment on sidewalls at first reflection points. Room is 18'X 34' with 19' ceilings. @jsautter I'm only rolling tubes to replace the JJs that came with the Freya. @lowrider57 Tube Depot set me up with low microphonic, matched etc GE 6SN7 GTAs. Should be here in a few days. |
You should work with a reputable dealer and request low-noise and low microphonic matched tubes. The quality and noise level of a 6SN7 can vary greatly, but the right tube will provide wonderful sonics in a preamp. I mentioned a power conditioner for your sources since noise from the AC line will also be audible thru your speakers. This is not hiss, but every line connected to the power grid will introduce noise into the system (even a dedicated line). |
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Since you already have warm sounding Pass amp why not try the noiseless Benchmark LA4 preamp, 30 day free trial and $2500. https://benchmarkmedia.com/collections/preamplifiers |
Power conditioning may help in lowering overall noise floor but it certainly won't address tube hiss. A well designed circuit in your component coupled with low noise tubes can achieve really quiet operation. I run 99dB efficient speakers through an integrated tube amp (max gain 34dB) and have zero audible noise and hiss even with my ear pressed to the grille. |
I typically associate hiss with tubes and agree with others that The Freya is a likely culprit. Have any spare tubes to try? And I don't get the sarcasm on wanting to remove hiss or any other unwanted noise to lower noise floor. It seems silly to promote using wonderful cables while dismissing hiss as somehow not degrading to overall SQ. I've been much happier when reducing all noise in my system to the extent practicable. |
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If the hiss is due to an electronic component's noise floor, you cannot remove or negate it short of getting new electronics with a lower noise floor. Alternatively raising the signal-to-noise but that becomes difficult with your 101dB speakers. A ground loop is different, and may be addressed by addressing how the gear is grounded and plugged in to power. Simplest thing to start with is to have only the amp and speakers connected and powered on, and then add components backwards to identify at what point you first hear the hiss. |