@mijostyn I agree with you. To me, his space needs 2 subwoofers (at least at this point it sounds like they do). Frequency tests show 130hz and lower just drops like a stone. Example : 1000hz is at -24db, and 80hz is at -44db at the nominal listening levels. I need to be careful though, father is VERY sensitive to bass and can be irritated instantly if he thinks/feels like it's 'boomy' or loud. I have heard a ton of systems with extremely articulate and impactful bass-you hear the detailed pluck or hit of bass, but you also feel it's impact and weight. With his system currently, it's just mainly the audible portion of the note/pluck/hit.
However as you and Erik have noted the greater issue is room echo/reverberation/decay and the corresponding impacts on phase and timing of the frequencies. Like you mentioned, we need to break things up, diffuse and absorb in general (there's nearly nothing in the listening area from the chair to the front wall-just the speakers. Just monkeying with a handful of panels and some ladders with blankets in key spots against the walls is showing how dominant the echo is in the room, and how it's coloring and even creating a cancelling or veiling of ACTUAL recorded room qualities \ instrument qualities, etc. He's able to hear at least some improvements, but he's also very sensitive to changes so just easing in on things.
I think I have things calculated and types of panels he should get and install, but I wish there was like a diffusion/absorber kit you could rent to test out!!!!!!!!!! I want to be sure to preserve the immense sound stage and depth he has, but tame the echo reverb, and "warm things up" so there's more feel and presence to the sound.
In-Room responce measurement with Legacy Focus SE speakers
Evening all,
Odd request or question for folks with Legacy Focus SE speakers. I am doing some VERY casual speaker tests and room response measurements of dads big system. I have Legacy's smaller Studio HD bookshelf speakers, and have a VERY small space and I think they are incredible. In hearing my dad's much larger room/speakers/system (his listening room is literally the size of my tiny home!) with his larger Legacy Focus SE speakers.....I am honestly a bit underwhelmed, especially considering I have the 1/8th size Studios, and in my room/system they sound incredible.
In my home, the Studio bookshelf speakers sound 'mostly' full, warm, very taunt and articulate, and there is the right match of the tone of most all instruments and it's "weight". Like the pluck or strum of a guitar that is percussive, actually has a bit of an impact on your body. However, my dads system lacks this 'impact' or body and weight. Listening at 70-75decibell level is actually grating and feels like your head is being a bit compressed, but it doesn't "sound loud". My dad mentioned he usually doesn't play anywhere above 60ish decibels because of this issue.
Attached (I hope) is a screen shot of REW in room measurement of my system with the Studio HD bookshelf speakers for reference to what I am hearing. In my fathers system, there is a pronounced 100-130hz peak/hump and things sort of trail off rapidly in BOTH higher and lower frequencies. I'm trying to get a similar measurement to illustrate, but thought I would try to get some thoughts first.
Thanks for time!!
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@erik_squires Ya just wanna jinx things, don'tcha?!?! 🤣
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Well, that does sound bad, but use gated measurements instead of sinusoidal pink noise. This will exclude the room. Not sure how REW works, but with OnmiMic I get gated measurements above a certain frequency, and overall below that. If it really is that bad you should consider heavily treating an area of the wall and pushing the speakers into it to get at least some bass re-inforcement.
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