Ya just wanna jinx things, don'tcha?!?!
Ahem, I'm not the one who declared there were no bass problems... that's exactly when the jinx happened!
In-Room responce measurement with Legacy Focus SE speakers
Evening all,
Odd request or question for folks with Legacy Focus SE speakers. I am doing some VERY casual speaker tests and room response measurements of dads big system. I have Legacy's smaller Studio HD bookshelf speakers, and have a VERY small space and I think they are incredible. In hearing my dad's much larger room/speakers/system (his listening room is literally the size of my tiny home!) with his larger Legacy Focus SE speakers.....I am honestly a bit underwhelmed, especially considering I have the 1/8th size Studios, and in my room/system they sound incredible.
In my home, the Studio bookshelf speakers sound 'mostly' full, warm, very taunt and articulate, and there is the right match of the tone of most all instruments and it's "weight". Like the pluck or strum of a guitar that is percussive, actually has a bit of an impact on your body. However, my dads system lacks this 'impact' or body and weight. Listening at 70-75decibell level is actually grating and feels like your head is being a bit compressed, but it doesn't "sound loud". My dad mentioned he usually doesn't play anywhere above 60ish decibels because of this issue.
Attached (I hope) is a screen shot of REW in room measurement of my system with the Studio HD bookshelf speakers for reference to what I am hearing. In my fathers system, there is a pronounced 100-130hz peak/hump and things sort of trail off rapidly in BOTH higher and lower frequencies. I'm trying to get a similar measurement to illustrate, but thought I would try to get some thoughts first.
Thanks for time!!
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Well, that does sound bad, but use gated measurements instead of sinusoidal pink noise. This will exclude the room. Not sure how REW works, but with OnmiMic I get gated measurements above a certain frequency, and overall below that. If it really is that bad you should consider heavily treating an area of the wall and pushing the speakers into it to get at least some bass re-inforcement.
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@amtprod There is no such thing as overdoing it. The more you kill what the room is doing the more you will hear what is in the recording including the third dimension, which is not the sense of depth as in distance it is the sense that the instrument of voice in front of you is a three dimensional object. The only caveat is that bass does not respond to room treatment. You start with enough acoustic power to do the job, then you tailor it with digital signal processing to sound right. |
Kind of, sort of.... All my suggestions so far have been subtractive. That is, to remove sounds in the room. If you only subtract mid-treble then your balance shifts to the bass. From experience and theory I can state that this absolutely brings out more bass and make speakers sound more powerful (I'd say larger but that sets some readers off into an irrational tizzy). Will it fully fix the OP's issue? I'm not sure, but I do now his judgement about the bass problems will change after the room is treated. Also, we want the room to interact a little. Diffuse sounds with a steady decay are really important to avoid a headphone-like experience and give us the illusions of the listening venue. |
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