It's funny how records are still best.

I am with merganser. Vinyl is just to much of a hassle to bother with. All the cleaning and set-up and still too noisy for me. I will take my SACD's over vinyl anytime. However, having said that I am sure under the right conditions vinyl is wonderful but I have yet to experience it.

Chuck

Dan_ed

I have about 100lps and plan on keeping them for nostalgic purposes only. Besides some day I may decide to try vinyl again. Also some turntables are absolutely gorgeous to look at. My friend has a Micheal Gyrodeck which is both beautiful to look at and sounds great.

Chuck

People like whatever format they like and I am not going to begrudge them that. However my cheap tt set-up and standard of the shelf vinyl did not even compare to my digital set-up of today. I just can not understand how people can buy these used lps at gargae sales for next to nothing and claim they are so superior in sound to cd/sacd when most of them have had their groves torn to shreds on some old junk set-up with no thought given to anti-skating adjustments or tracking force etc. etc. Even my friend who is big into vinyl says it takes 180-250 gm virgin vinyl cleaned to perfection with his rig set-up properly to better his digital set-up and he has a very cheap digital set-up. But to each his own.

Chuck

Sean

I see you have a pair of AR-90's. I still have mine in original condition. I need to rebuld (refoam) the dricers otherwise they are fine.

Chuck

Bin

Boy open reel that stuff is got to be hard to find.

Chuck

Dan_ed

I can appreciate your thoughts and opinions and the fact you like vinyl. That is certainly your choice. But yes it is about background noise the snaps the clicks and the pops that take away from the pleasure of the music at least for me. This is especially true during the quiet passages of a classical piece or even when the full orchestra is playing and it sounds somewhat distorted/congested.

My friend rig is top notch and has experienced good vinyl and poor vinyl and he fully understands what it takes for vinyl to perform at its best. Now I am sure that when vinyl is done right and set-up properly it will outperform cd/sacd I just have not heard it yet. I certainly know that my inexpensive tt/tone arm set-up is/was not going to do it. If you are peronoid about Sony and are biased against them then so be it. Again that is your choice.

I for one have embraced the format and will continue to support it (read Hybrid). I have found plenty of titles available for my listening pleasure and continue to see more releases every day if only from the small specialised labels. Happy listening

Chuck

Dan

The hybrid disc contain both an SACD layer and a redbook layer. This allows the disc to be played on a standard cd player and an SACD player. Obviously the standard player will only play the redbook layer.

I don't see the vinyl versus cd really being a debate at all both formats offer positives and negatives. And I agree when vinyl is done right it is wonderful just as tube electronics still sounds wonderfull. I will say as a mechanical engineer I can appreciate the beauty of some turntables which in the end may cause me to take the plunge. My friends Micheal is a thing of beauty. And just like you I also enjoy some of the hands on aspects of this hobby and cd's just don't lend themselves to this kind of intimacy. I have a audio shop fairly near me that is heavy into analog (vinyl)so it would be easy for me to get into it and have support for it. Anyways good luck and enjoy the music.

Chuck