@mapman I do understand the frustration, but minds are no longer changed. Seems like more and more people in this country are only tuned in to information that conforms to their confirmation biases. The winner in these arguments is who can get in the last word, doesn't matter how many times its repeated.
This place sometimes reminds me of how when we were little kids and told another kid they were a dirty bird, no, you're a dirty bird response, put on repeat until both kids shouting in unison.This place getting bad reputation as place for mean spirited, ugly disposition people. I'm getting close to checking out of here.