Nietzsche and Runaway Audio Consumption


Came across this today. A lot of posts bring up the issue of "how much is enough?" or "when is audio consumption justified" etc.

Does this Nietzsche aphorism apply to audio buying? You be the judge! 

Friedrich Nietzsche“Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. 

Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.” 

Nietzsche, Friedrich. 1996. Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits. Cambridge University Press. (p. 283-4, an aphorism no. 310)

I'm pretty sure @mahgister will want to read this one! (Because they speak so artfully about avoiding the diversion that consumption poses to the quest for true aesthetic and acoustic excellence.)

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@sns , great observation on the micromanaging of kids and not having the proper setting to raise them in. Before tags and memes, my parents were the "free range" types who instilled trust in us. The only rules were to be back by dinner time, or before sunset.

Things were different back then which accounts for the results. That could be part of the combo that made us the "greatest generation". Having nature at our disposal allows us to connect and develop. Surrounded by concrete doesn't. 

Neither Tom nor Jerry

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Nonoise

Some very interesting opening remark, from a thesis related completely to the Goethe /Nietzsche relation ,about Nietzsche opinion about Goethe :

«Of these intellectual ancestors, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, a writer and
polymath who lived in the German town of Weimar, had a premier status. The
numerous quotations and references to Goethe, indicate that he was constantly on
Nietzscheʼs mind from his Gymnasium education in Schulpforta to his final
productive days in Turin.6 And what clearly distinguishes Goethe from other
prominent characters in Nietzscheʼs writings is that he received more favourable
coverage than any other: praise was rife and criticism scarce. Nietzscheʼs
intellectual transformation never required him to “shut doors” on Goethe, who even
seems to have been a major guidance for Nietzsche when he turned against his
earlier heroes of Schopenhauer and Wagner. As Adrian Del Caro puts it, ʻGoethe
was one of a few individuals whose image kept apace with Nietzscheʼs selfinflating image over the yearsʼ. Arguably, he was the only modern man in that
category»

Thats say a lot more about Goethe than my posts... N. is one of the most intelligent man by all acounts that lived in the last centuries...Think about that...

«While Nietzsche constantly cited Goethe as someone who truly lived, Kant was someone who never did so, neither physically nor mentally. Goetheʼs vitality and passionate way of living and thinking was lacking in Kant: his thoughts were sterilised -and his thinking was merely a biography of his head.»

This is the reason why the great philosopher Ernst Cassirer, writing his philosophy of symbolic forms, coorected his Kantian perspective from the beginning of his life toward a complete Goethean phenomenological view on which is based his deep semiotics of forms...

The ultimate reason why Goethe is the greatest thinker of the last 3 centuries in Occidental civilization is simple : Goethe was UNTOUCHED by the pervasive NOMINALISM at the root of the TECHNOLOGICAL progress and power of European culture from the 13Th century till this day....But technology is NOT science...There must be a balance in the soul between ideas and living perceptive experience, Goethe is this corrective balance with his concrete phenomenology....

Nominalism was the personal foe to struggle against for the greatest american thinker, the founder of phenomenological semiotic, Charles Sanders Peirce... Because ultimately the technological power make possible by the nominalist revolution is also a chocking, a stifling and a smothering of real EXPERIENCED science...

The pure nominalist extreme thinking is illustrated nowadays by a cult of technology which is the more ANTIHUMAN movement which was ever designed on earth... Stalinism and Hitlerism were a walk in the park if the power is seized by these corporates fools...Think about Ray Kurzweil and Bill Gates folly among others....The destruction of the soul is the goal of transhumanism... The ultimate incarnation of the nominalism extreme trend...

A balance was need between Ockham and Plato, like in Aristotle time....Goethe was the new Aristotle ...

https://www.academia.edu/8484845/Nietzsches_Goethe_A_Portrait_of_a_Good_European

By the way the experience of music and sound NEED to be understood by a phenomenological approach... Why?

Because sound and music are completely unexplanable without a lived experience of physical acoustic and psycho-acoustic at the same times in our room...

Sound must be seen like a dynamic surface and volume and the dynamical micro structure of the playing timbre must be perceived concretely...Music must be seen so to speak...

Physical acoustic and psycho-acoustic are 2 faces of the same experience united in one perception, divided by nominalist technology or attitude...

The sound and music and the internal qualities of a resonant body are perceived DIRECTLY through the waves-image transmitted by the air...

Without that goal and experience people are in the cult of engineering marketting buying spree or listen sound and music guided only by their conditioned taste and habit... Discovery cannot be produced by our taste only or by our habits...But by listenings experiments...

I think that my posts are all in the spirit of this thread and absolutely not off-topic save for those who cannot think anymore...

Feel free to criticize me BUT with arguments only....

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@femoore12 - I for one am very happy that science and technology have replaced 'mysticism', and I don't need anybody to tell me what I need or don't need in my life. It would be a boring world if we were all the same!  What works for one does not necessarily work for everybody else.

Happy Holidays!!