Ohm Walsh 2000s vs Vandersteen 2Ces

Both seem reasonable matches to either amp.

I'm partial to the OHMs and the sound of omnis which tend to have a more life like presentation to me. Also I like that the OHMs use a single wide range driver up to 7Khz or so which is great for overall musical coherency.

I'm less familiar with the Vandy sound. I would expect very good results from these as well but more like conventional 3-way speakers albeit open-baffle which might tend to take the presentation somewhere more in between conventional box designs and omnis.

Audio connection,

Who's babbling? So tell us something about the vandies then if you
can help answer the question.

Modern ohms do not sound like those from years ago.

I have heard vandersteens but not as much as ohms.

One clear difference between vandies and omnis including ohm is vandies
appear to work more like conventional box designs in regards to having a
small well defined sweet spot whereas omnis like ohms maintain imaging
and coherency of the soundstage and timbre better over a wide area, like
listening from different seats/perspectives live in a concert venue.

"Vandy's are more a stepped baffle"

Tex, thanks for clarifying that. I realized after posting that "open baffle" may not be the most accurate description.

Vandersteen and OHM both focus on delivering coherent sound, and seem to be mentioned together fairly often, but the technical approaches are totally different.

FWIW the thing that makes the OHMs unique, even among omnidirectional speakers, is the OHM CLS (Coherent Line SOurce) version of a Walsh driver used. Google search and read up on Walsh/CLS driver/speaker for more insight there. Vandersteen has its own approach for phase and time coherency that is also very well documented.

Hi Mamboni.

How far are your 5000s from the sidewall?

Also, I'm curious what the room dimensions are?

Thanks.

i'll be seeing the moodies for the 6th time dec 1. you and me from seventh is likely in the program.:)

Rgs,

Again, as Mamboni also related, current OHM Walshes are 3 design revisions (and 30 years) removed from originals in the 1980s. Imaging is much improved (night and day difference) and can compete with the best modern floorstanders I have heard even in the equivalent sweet spots.

Small high quality monitors probably will outdo the modern OHMs and most modern floorstanders as well in regards to pinpoint imaging in smaller rooms. Haven't compared to Vandys specifically. They might still have a smaller advantage. I do not know for sure.

Some treatments on side walls along the lines Mamboni mentioned will probably only help further if needed in most cases.

So my point is only that original OHM Walsh 4s from the 80's are not a valid reference point to compare when buying new today.

"So my point is only that original OHM Walsh 4s from the 80's are not a valid reference point to compare when buying new today."

The only reason I emphasize this, is that many have only heard older Walshes (which had a pretty decent distribution network in B&M stores back in the 80s before OHM went direct sales only) however they all, including current line, share very similar aesthetics, especially the metal "cans" which enclose the actual CLS driver. The internals of the CLS driver can (which makes the sound) are what has undergone 3 levels of revision since, but there is often no way to know for sure what exact model/design/configuration might reside inside any particular "can".

Not to mention that John Strohbeen will readily modify the common base design as needed to meet individual needs/preferences (including commonly more omni A/V versus less omni 2 channel, and tonal modifications to the CLS Walsh driver configuration ) and I have no idea how anyone would know without performing major surgery on the "can" or being told by someone who happens to know for sure.

Not knowing for sure can be a hindrance mainly towards knowing exactly what on is buying used. Not a problem buying direct from OHM though. I'd expect you would get the standard 2 channel or A/V use current X000 series design, unless you request something else otherwise.