On ''what there is''

’The logic’’ of reactions to my thread. I started this thread
with a kind of introduction to ’’what there is’’ in general and
limited the extension to ’’what analog component there are’’
in particular cartridges. I even named Raul and chakster
as example of worthwhile contributors. But there was not
one single reaction about ’’what cartridges there are’’ but
the most were critical remarks about my philosophical
’’content’’. However my reactions were only reactions to
reaction of the members. Who then should be blamed?

You are totally right...

I apologize...

It is me only who could be blamed for the greatest part...I love philosophy more than cartridge alas!

I dont own a turntable ....

i am retired and reading the name Quine and Frege about cartridges i could not resist.....I will mute myself....

But why speaking about Quine and Frege in a cartridge thread? Is it not a bit "haughty" ? I cannot reproach it to you because i could be like that myself... 😁

Did you not wait for some reaction for this improbable association and somewhat kind of provocation?



My deepest respects.....

I remember why I didn't take philosophy.  Glad you're enjoying it.

snilf, yes, the sensation is a personal experience but I'm not talking about that. The damage the fire will cause to your hand will be the same regardless of who it is that is sticking their hand in the fire and regardless of what they feel. Protein starts denaturing at 106 degrees F. I find it interesting that it also does not matter what animal you stick in the fire the response will be the same. Do dogs feel the same pain we do? What about caterpillars? Same response. Pain is a very ancient sensation and virtually universal for good reason. Animals that had an aversion to destructive, life challenging forces out survived those that did not. If pain did not hurt we would all be dead by the age of 18.   

It is very much like what people think they hear. That is a personal experience that has been programmed by a variety of influences.  I can tell you what I hear in descriptive terms but will you hear the same thing?
I will argue that you will not as it is very unlikely both of us will be listening to the same aspect of any given performance at exactly the same time. Even if a solo instrument is playing you might single out the bass while I single out the treble. Does it really matter? I will tell you from experience that if you put us all blind folded in a room with a fabulous system every single one of us would agree that it was an excellent system. 

I will tell you from experience that if you put us all blind folded in a room with a fabulous system every single one of us would agree that it was an excellent system.

All your post made sense only around the definition of the word " fabulous"...

It resemble a sophism...

All people around a system blindfolded will acclaim a truly fabulous system.... And a fabulous system is truly fabulous if all people blindfold could claim that it is....

Because we are all biased of course....

But no need to be blindfolded to train his biases...It is called education...

And consciousness can erase pain....Or the opposite....

Thomas Aquinas with bad teeth did not suffer when praying when someone would put off his bad teeth.......

Some people one morning discover the mystic Mary Magdalene de Pazzi ( the most beautiful woman in Italy at the times ) in ectasy with his hand freeze in a bucket of ice after washing the laundry and forgetful of the world suddenly ... Where is the pain? In his consciousness/body like a servant around his master....

Consciousness is older than pain...An angel or a yogi perhaps whisper it to my ears just now....It seems my angel/yogi contradict evolutive biology... Perhaps not.... Perhaps consciousness is at the same time LESS and MORE...


And perhaps audio experience is also at the same time less AND more....Like the acoustical sleeping shephard/ princess waiting for the audiophile prince to kiss her before becoming a Queen ...

😁😊😊😊😊

Did.DID. Not deed.have another drink.