Phono preamp upgrade price/performance


Im wondering how much I would have to spend on a phono stage that would be better than the built in one on my amp?

amp - Arcam Radia A15

TT - project debut carbon with 2m blue 

so i think it sounds pretty good but I recently tested a different amp (Marantz model 50) and I thought ithe phono sounded better than the Arcam. I didn’t keep the Marantz for a bunch of other reasons, but it got me wondering, how much better can things be with a “better” phono stage and what would it cost.

mattldm

A friend did the same thing with the same turntable. They ended up with a tube phono amp. If that’s not an option, the $249 Pro-Ject Phono Box S2 could work.

Can you audition phono preamps you are interested in.

If I was you, my question is effectively what preamps may result in me listening to more music or enjoying it more than your Arcsm. 
 

There are a lot of awesome ~$500 phono preamps. 

Someone is selling Hageman Cornet 3 phono amp on Audio Circle for a good price.  I have the Cornet 2 and it sounds very good.  The only big different is the 2 is tube rectified.

Separate PS can definitely improve sound. I would suggest that a reasonable price point is around same as cart, so ~$200 with the 2M Blue. Doubling that to $500-ish may still get you a bit more refinement, thereafter it becomes a question of what else will be the weak link/limiting piece. If you think of ratcheting your system up gradually, you may consider making the PS your best piece for now, then I would suggest something like $1000. Lots of options. 
Whether you want to stay MM only, or also leave the MC door open is another consideration. I think most >$500 PS are combined MM/MC (there certainly are exceptions).

From what I read on-line, the Arcam A15 is a one-piece unit that can do just about anything in the digital or analog world, provided one limits oneself to an MM cartridge. That's asking a lot from one chassis. So it's quite likely that you would experience a noticeable upgrade in sound quality by adding an outboard phono stage, even an inexpensive one. There are many good candidates. That is provided your TT, tonearm, and cartridge have more to offer, as well. Spend less than $500 on an outboard phono and budget a few hundred more for a cartridge that outperforms the 2M Blue, and you might be happy.