Pre-amp Upgrade

Absolutely agree with Ahendler. The Shindo Aurieges L is the "entry level" pre in Shindo's lineup but there is nothing entry level about its sound. Far more musical than my Audio Research Ref 3. If I ever manage to sell my Ref 3, I will be replacing it with an Aurieges L or maybe even a Monbrison. Can't wait. ;->

There is a PFR for sale on the Gon but it looks a bit rough.

This is for single-source (digital)?

I concur with Br3098. If you can find a used PF-R, it is a steal. Former Stereophile Class A, I use one in my BR system and in years past it was my main pre. For about a grand used you get the equivalent of a $5K current pre product, IMHO.

Neal

Thanks guys, this is the kind of info that I am looking for. Now, if I could only audition all of the recommended pre-amps in my environment I would be in a real good position to make a wise choice. I am lined-up with the local dealer for a demo/loaner Shindo and a VTL 5.5 ... that is at least a good start.

If you enjoyed your LS-15 and want the same sound signature, but (a lot) more of it, the LS-26 is a wonderful amp.

Personally, I like the synergy of CJ amps and preamps together. If you can find one, the CT-6 is the unsung hero of the CJ preamp lineup - it's like getting 90% of the sound from a CT-5 for less than 1/2 the price. The CJ pre that sounds most like the ARC gear IMHO is the PFR. I know that you want tubes, but it's a great preamp and is available for a very reasonable (aka cheap) price.

Take a listen to the VAS Citation I. Built to a classic HK tube pre amp design, it may have all the detail you are looking for. Its MSRP is about $5K. I use it with VAS mono blocks. Great match, great sound.

Have you considered the CJ PV-15? It is neutral and dynamic. Or perhaps you would consider it a step down?

I've owned VTL 5.5 and CJ 16LS 2. VTL creates big open dynamic sound that sparkles. CJ sounds smooth and mellow. Currently I use ARC VSi60 which is an integrated amp with passive pre. To my ears ARC sounds more transparent and musical than either of them.

I believe the Shindo pres are a game changer. The auriges were for me. If you want super hyped detail then the Shindo is not for you. If you want a powerful emotional experience and know the sound of live music then you must here the Shindo

I have owned both the cj 17 and 16ls II the 16 was better by far. Haven't heard the others on your list but for system synergy(match with your amp) I would stick with the cj.

Chuck