Shindo and Joule Electra Preamps

Just a FYI here so you have accurate info on the retail pricing of Joule gear:

- LA-150MKII (line stage pre): $5,250 retail (no MkIII version of this preamp)
- LA-150SE (line stage preamp): $6,995 retail
- LA-300ME (line stage pre): $11,995 retail
- LAP-150MKII (includes on-board OPS-1 phono stage with power supply in separate chassis): $9,600

FJN04 can you post the link to the audiophile rulebook? I am interested in how much of a price difference there can be before a comparison is no longer allowed. Is it based on a dollar value or is it a % thing?

As a new Shindo Aureigies-L owner, who was recently eyeing a used Joule, I am interested in this comparison. I don't think my preamp will be leaving my system for the foreseeable future, but I am curious.

"FJN04 can you post the link to the audiophile rulebook? I am interested in how much of a price difference there can be before a comparison is no longer allowed. Is it based on a dollar value or is it a % thing?"

There is no rulebook, the OP can compare any preamp he would like. I just thought the OP should take in to consideration which units have phono stages, and then compare them accordingly. Just a for instance: The LAP-150 mk.2 price actually falls right between a Monbrison and a Masseto. If you ad a good phono to the LA 300 ME, that may put it in the V-R territory price wise. I would listen to both lines, if given the opportunity.

I tried Shindo before I bought LA-300ME (I don;t remember the model but it was about the same price) and I liked its sound. I liked much, much, more LA-300 but it may be personal

The main reason why I did not go to investigate further lies in the philosophies of both companies.

Shindo build their unit based on old unique parts which produce excellent synsrgy between them. Now, if company is closed and I need new part for repair - where will I get it. If I want upgarde it 10 years later whi will do it, if its based on unique parts synergy?

all J-E pre or power ampsare based on Jud genius design but all parts are the latest and the best. Good example that Simon Thacher was main evaluator of copper teflon caps (see - review section of v-cap.com) and even now he is evaluating something new which might or might not end up in production... Moreover, there are number of modifiers here who KNOW Jud designs and always can do , at least part sabstitute if will be need in future upgrades.

Good Luck