The Audio Science Review (ASR) approach to reviewing wines.


Imagine doing a wine review as follows - samples of wines are assessed by a reviewer who measures multiple variables including light transmission, specific gravity, residual sugar, salinity, boiling point etc.  These tests are repeated while playing test tones through the samples at different frequencies.

The results are compiled and the winner selected based on those measurements and the reviewer concludes that the other wines can't possibly be as good based on their measured results.  

At no point does the reviewer assess the bouquet of the wine nor taste it.  He relies on the science of measured results and not the decidedly unscientific subjective experience of smell and taste.

That is the ASR approach to audio - drinking Kool Aid, not wine.

toronto416

@oberoniaomnia Regarding cables, all you need to know is the capacitance, the inductance, the purity, and the quality of the terminal connectors, and the method in which the wire is meld with the connector. You think these things, on an individual level and as a whole don’t matter to the sound? That’s a tough pill to swallow.

Silver is 6% faster than copper, you think that doesn’t change the sound?

@devinplombier I have evidence, straight from Erin’s mouth that clearly stated he cannot hear a difference between any neutral sounding amplifier. Imbecile or not. I am not surprised. At least Erin has the balls to admit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5KfafDpXvQ&t=5s

It is in this video. Forgive me I forgot the exact timestamp. He stated the only reason he heard a difference between said tube amp vs his neutral amplifier was because the tube amp was not neutral. He also stated he cannot hear a difference between 2 neutral amplifiers. As we all know, an amplifier contributes to the sound much more than how neutral or not neutral it is. And if said reviewer only relies on the neutrality to spot a difference, well that's bad. But at least he admits his limit which I can respect.

@decooney 

"It only matters to those who can hear a difference. "

 

This is actually quite profound.

A brain exercise for those who think all cables sound the same because ASR measured them to be the same:

The terminal connector of a cable cannot be pure copper, because copper cannot hold a shape well enough. It's usually a mix different metals along with copper. This will degrade the signal. 

The actual brain exercise, If you have a cable that degrades the signal, some will degrade less, some will degrade more. Assume you have 1 cable of each, you think they would sound the same?

This is just the terminal connector we're talking about, there are a lot more aspects that haven't come into the picture. 

@samureyex

Silver is 6% faster than copper, you think that doesn’t change the sound?

Really? Silver may have 6% lower resistance than copper, when compared by volume, but do you really think that makes the signals it conducts travel 6% faster?

Electrical signals travel at close to the speed of light. Copper is entirely capable of transmitting Giga-Hertz digital signals, for example high speed Ethernet, using thin, unshielded, twisted wire pairs.

Maybe you think that halving the resistance of a copper wire (by doubling its cross-section) doubles the speeds of the signals it carries? No, it doubles the current it can carry for the same voltage drop.

Pure copper, because of its softness or malleability, makes an excellent connector but does tarnish over time.