Tried 2 pairs of speakers for 2 channel?

I have built several experimental bipole systems.

One disadvantage of a bipole setup is that you will probably get a severe dip in the on-axis frequency response at the frequency where the path length difference from the woofers to your ears is equal to 1/2 wavelength. The dip would probably be in the lower midrange or upper midbass region.

It is possible to design a system that minimizes this path length difference dip (and indeed Definitive Technology holds a patent on one such technique), but you have to design the system specifically to address that issue. It is very unlikely that placing two identical speakers back-to-back would work.

You may still like them in bipole configuration, as dips are less audible than peaks.

Duke

i owned 2 pair of quad esl 57 speakers, which were stacked in a mark levenson stand.

as an experiment i tried running 2 pairs of different speakers, one behind the other. yes, i am aware of the problems. it was just an experiment--an interesting one at that.

www.space-tech-lab.com/IMPROVETIP.HTML
You might want to read the number 7 tip from the above site. It touches on placement of two pairs of speakers, placement and wiring. Sounds interesting, although I personally have not tried it.

With Double Advents, how do you correctly wire the speakers if you are using one amp? I read how to stack them all the time, but how do you correctly run the speaker wire to connect the 2 speakers on each side?

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Place the speakers back-to-back. You'll have a bipole sound radiation pattern with sound emanating from the front and back and diminished levels to the side. Mirage has made a number of great sounding speakers along this design principle. You'll need to position the speakers so that there's plenty of space to the rear wall (3 feet minimum, but the more the better). You should get a big, spacious soundstage with large-scale dynamics. All the setups will result in noticeable phase inteference problems.

The speakers mentioned above, Duntech, Montana..etc. have
the woofers farther apart..and the tweeter(s) centered.
The lower the freq./Hz./CPS the more omni-directional, and
the longer the wavelength. The distance the woofers are
apart has a greater chance of cancelling or re-inforcing
the range they cover..on the other hand, the higher the
freq. the more directional or cardioid the pattern of
radiation is. Placing the speakers side-by-side or one
in front of the other has a less likely chance of being of
any merit.

You are on the right track for two pair. Stack them verticle. Take a look at Duntech, Dunlavy, or Montana. don't forget to reverse you speaker cables on one pair so they will be in phase.

Let us here how you make out.

Good Luck,

My speakers are not stackable (for one thing the resulting stack would be 10 feet tall), would a side by side arrangment work? If I made sure the front face was on the same plane for each "set" I am also wondering what problems might arise if I tried to spread them out a bit either on the same plane or all angled in to the main listening area. It is interesting to know that some high end manufacturers have experimented with the 2 pairs of speakers arrangment. I know if a person was to start over spending twice as much on just one pair is probably the best way to go, but if you like what you have and just want *more* of it......

I bought four AR LST's (later called Cello Amati's)for a quad set-up in about 1970. When quad died, I went back to two channel and stacked them. I did not invert either of them.
Later Mark Levinson did the same and even made a custom granite stand (for $8000) bringing the total cost of the set-up to $28,000. He also did not invert them.
Hope this helps.

In the mid 1970's I used what was the a very popular speaker
set-up..called "double Advents". You set one large Advent
on top of the other..with the top one upsidedown...ie:
tweeters together. This was the beginning of the high-end
journey for many of us. I have not heard or seen much about
doubles since...but many current high-end cone speakers
systems...(Wilson and many more) appear to be doubles within
one model/design.