user poll on seperates vs integrated


Hey guys, I wanted to try and crowd-source some (likely very opinionated, unscientific) knowledge.  I've read about the benefits of separates (have only ever used integrated myself), and I'm wondering how those benefits compare to the benefits of higher end parts/assembly, when controlled for cost.

 

To put it more plainly, would you likely get better overall results from a $5000 preamp and $5000 amp, or from a $10,000 integrated, given the likely quality/components used in equipment in those price ranges.

 

If you're experienced both separates, and integrated amps that cost the equivalent of those separate parts added together, can you speak to which you preferred?

 

Thanks for weighing in.

chrisryanhorner

A voice here in favor of integrated amps. Fewer boxes, less cabling, space efficient and as a sound quality matter…the difference is negligible at best. There are so many external variables (room, power, cables, source, etc) that I believe it’s a decision of convenience over SQ.

And if you later feel the need to spend money, with the flip of a switch you can separate power from preamp and experiment to your hearts content.

I recently moved from separates to an integrated amp (all in 1 actually) and this was a nice step forward.   More detail and better dynamics.  Awesome.  For  less than half the cost. 

ha, i stepped away for an hour and the tide of opinion has turned completely the other direction in favor of integrated amps!  i love it.  honestly i know there's no right answer, its nice to hear what everyone's personal experience has been though.

the only thing i currently have that is separate from the amp is the parasound jc3+ phono which i picked up recently as a dealer open box deal.  i can say that there has been an immediate and distinct improvement vs simply using the onboard phono, much more detailed and more of a feeling of 3-dimentionality, players occupying distinct locations vs the music all sort of compressed together if that makes sense. 

it was the experience of adding this separate component to the system that got me thinking about this question in the first place, wondering if i wouldn't find a similar improvement in splitting up the pre and power amp the way i did with adding the external phono.

Absolutely love the idea of integrateds but even the more expensive ones seem to have been handily outperformed by even modest separates (in my system ). I wish it were not so. Some of the integrateds that people rave about are beyond my reach financially.

 

This is even before discussing the typical quality of their integrated phono amps…if they even have them.

The first BAT 300 (with 6922s) was the best I’ve ever heard.  If I’m not mistaken, it’s current equivalent is about 12k…you can buy some nice separates with that!

Bottom Line: I vote Separates!

OP

another +vote for the Integrated Amp. Over the last 10 years, the technological advances have finally reached this product niche'.  Test drive your fave Brand sometime.

 

Happy Listening!