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There exist 10 to the power of 8 microtubules by neurons....One hundred millions...These subtle cylinders shape are the seat of non traditional algorithmical process in the brain, quantum calculations, and we know that the consciousness is not produced at the gross scale of the neurons by traditional networks descriptions...

«Your brain is the cosmos itself dear »-Groucho Marx





https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17588928.2020.1839037?needAccess=true

Raul, this is a silly game. You keep moving the goal posts. Less visual interference  is less whether you get it by turning down the lights, turning them off, or closing your eyes. Humans see poorly in low light conditions we are diurnal creatures. Next you are going to tell me we are nocturnal.
I've got news for you. Lights are a very recent innovation. Next you will tel men cave men had fires. True, but not for the thousands we were first evolving as primitive primates. 
@roxy54 , looks like we have something in common. Do you have all of the "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore" disc's? The Grand Wazoo is a great one. Chungas Revenge is another of my favorites

For those of you who do not know Frank Zappa just google his discography. There are very few people who manage to create that much music in 52 years.

Can you get it that I am NOT criticizing or dismissing Zappa's music?  I am only saying that most people are not so familiar with his music as they are with his persona or his appearance, or both of those.  And it's only my opinion; I don't insist on the absolute accuracy of that observation.  I have no stats to back it up.
Mahgister, To answer a question with an insult to the intelligence of the person who asked the question is not helpful or informative.  Also, please leave dear Groucho out of this.  What is the exact opposite of "production of consciousness BY the brain"?  Where can consciousness come from if not the brain?  Leave out spiritual or religious allusions.

Mahgister, To answer a question with an insult to the intelligence of the person who asked the question is not helpful or informative.

You are right and i apologize another time for being impatient or rude to you...

But in this thread i have been mocked often then....my neuron short circuited...

I deeply regret my tone with you.... Your question was genuine...

In a word, because it is a complex question....

For Penrose itself it is the totality of the cosmos quantum stuff that work his way in the microtubules... i will not repeat with my bad english what you can read in this short introductory article:

This is the introduction:

« The ‘Orch OR’ theory (Hameroff & Penrose, 1996a, 2014) attributes consciousness to quantum computations in microtubules inside brain neurons. Quantum computers process ‘superpositions’ of possibilities (quantum bits or ‘qubits’) which unify by entanglement, evolve and compute, until reduction, or ‘collapse’ to definite output states. Nobel laureate Sir Roger Penrose (1989) proposed that reduction occurred spontaneously due to an objective threshold in the fine-scale structure of the universe (‘objective reduction’, ‘OR’) at time t = ħ/EG, where ħ is the PlanckDirac constant, and EG the gravitational self-energy of the superposition. At each such OR moment, Penrose further proposed, random (proto-) conscious moments of experience occur, composed of basic ‘qualia,’ the most specific scientific proposal for phenomenal experience (the ‘hard problem’) yet put forth (Hameroff & Penrose, 1996b). Were there ‘orchestrated’ quantum computers and qubits in the brain which could reduce by OR to produce full, rich conscious moments?»



https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17588928.2020.1839037?needAccess=true&



Penrose could  be wrong for sure it is only daily science...

But anyway the paradigm of the " brain produce consciousness" is dead.... By all account of changing waves of information coming from many fields....

That is my point...

My best to you from my heart....