@cdc simply because someone said I could and shouldn’t. I will not do it again but I had some interesting responses. Anyway. THIS IS AMERICA!
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?
It seems like when I see comments on high end gear there is a lot of negativity. I have been an audiophile for the last 20 years. Honestly, if you know how to choose gear and match gear a lot of the high end gear is just better. When it comes to price people can charge what they want for what they create. If you don’t want it. Don’t pay for it. Look if you are blessed to afford the best bear and you can get it. It can be very sonically pleasing. Then do it. Now if you are also smart and knowledgeable you can get high end sound at mid-fi prices then do it. It’s the beauty of our our hobby. To build a system that competes with the better more expensive sounding systems out there. THOUGHTS?
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There are many websites like ANA and even here on agon that have people think their $299 stereo amp has the best sq of anything out there or that cables don’t matter. But on those naysayer websites, I’ve questioned them many times about why they are using a pair of $50 cables and not the $.02 cables that come with their components and their replies are always the $50 cables sound better but that’s the cutoff ($50) where you get diminishing returns. You will find audiophools all over. |
Simplistic argument facing a complex problem... You forgot those who own costly gear systems in their living room that sound not so much good as it could be even if it seems to sound only marginally better and merely different more than better than a low cost gear system ... ...Go and visit show room too with costly system ...verify my claim ... Guess why this is so ?😊😁 Ignorance does not reveal itself only through poor gear choices at low cost but also with those with 50,000 bucks system ... Then guess why i am right and that mechanical, electrical and especially acoustical working controls devices matter more than the price tag ? For sure a 1000 dollars amplifier will not generally work at the acoustical level of a 10,000 bucks one , save for some exception , but an electrical,mechanical and acoustioal controlled environment matter way more than the price tag if we want at least cross over the minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold, and this is true for all system at all price ... What i say is not in any gear manual owner , guess why ? 😊 it is not good for the business to sell gear that cannot work at their optimal level without the thinking owner in the obligation to work and taking care of these three working dimensions , nevermind the gear level and price .. The seller of costly amplifier or speakers who will reveal that any gear at any price will work imperfectly in a non controlled mechanical,electrical and acoustical environment is not born till this day ... guess why ? They want to sell you a perfect plug and play system and convince you at this price tag that you need nothing else than their product for sure ... Believing this is ignorance , the true ignorance which plague rich as poor owners ... Acoustics rules audio not price tag ... And if you think that i spoke about acoustic panels here you have understood anything yet... There are many websites and even here in agon that have many people who think their 20,000 dollars amp and speakers is perfect plug and play and the end of the world and who laugh at people like me owning low cost gear ... the ignorance is not necessarily with people like me ...
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I got back into audio almost 4 years ago, and found and joined this forum shortly after in hopes of learning about all the new things that have come out in the last 40 years. It has been interesting, but I also found that I am not going to be at the level in this hobby that many others here are. First, because I only have so much money. Second, because I found long ago that when you are beginning any new hobby that requires expenditures, it is better to balance one’s level of purchases rather than spend a lot on one piece of equipment and skimp on the rest. My choices are “good enough for me” though less-than for others. I have been impressed to find all the different brands of equipment, designed in various countries. I had no idea before that any of these things existed beyond the mass market name brands. I thought, “I wonder how they knew about that . . to buy that?” I don’t go to audio stores to sample equipment, and I don’t live in a big city that has much variety. I assume that some members here learn about these esoteric brands from audio shop owners and by going to audio fests where such equipment is previewed. |
@bob540 all great points. I started in the hobby as a hobbyist. I actually sell gear now but I enjoy the music more than anything else. I looked at some of the responses and some of them are on the nasty side. I’m ok with that and I’m not complaining about that. Those that have nasty comments about or think I’m schilling or just trolling I don’t want anything to do with. I’m past all of that. I’m going to be happy and enjoy the wonderful system I have been blessed with. |
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