Upgrading Fuses

Yeah, thanks for edjamacatin' us ignurnts real good in the ways of faith learnin's!

"Isn't education sometimes a bitch for those who won't listen. "

Seems like there is a contradiction in there somewhere? :)

Eldartford - Interesting test approach, thanks. To be honest I'm lazy and completely undisciplined on testing ic's & speaker cable. I just keep the ones that seem to sound the best (and don't cost that much). One of the vendors, maybe the name was something like alpha core, used to sell cables that were built like giant capacitors, two flat thin conductors with a very thin slice of insulation in between, would have been interesting to run your test on them as I think they might have been the most extreme attenuators in the marketplace. Surprisingly to me they (speaker cables were tested not ic's) seemed to screech the upper frequencies instead of squash them.

Experience is the best teacher. There is no room left for actual experience in this thread. It is now the typical measurements circle jerk that has as much to do with musical enjoyment as jacking off has to do with sex. Enjoy.

"Why isn't this debate about science" - Metro4

Simple, because it is not science that is at play. It is science in the service of music. Music is art. Art is human expression. If you think that the sophistication of electronic science matches the complexity of musical sounds (art), you don't understand art.

"The onus of proof ALWAYS falls on the person making the claim, not the other way around" -Metro4

Really? In my universe (and that of many here) it is you (and others here) that are making the claim; the claim that there is no difference. YOU prove it; if proof must be provided. Prove that there is no difference. Why does it bother you that some of us trust our ears? Why does it bother you that some of us perhaps have more sensitive hearing (by way of nature or training) in certain specific ways than others do? Why do you think that we have learned all that there is to know about the science of sound as it relates to sound and it's reproduction?

Frogman,

I certainly share your view, but these guys aren't listening to anyone but themselves and likely never will. Notice that one of them even has the audacity to talk about his subjective preference in cables! Of course, cables are different! Sheesh. Talk about calling the kettle black. Their motto is, "My measurements are better than your measurements." Or maybe it's "You have to prove your opinions are valid, but my B.S. is the gospel." No one asked for proof of anything here, but they will smother every voice that wants to simply talk about what they hear. FEAR THE EARS!!!!

This is the same kind of silliness that's going on over at the "What's the Best Speaker in the World..Objectively" thread. Wanker central.