New Guy asking for help

That. Those are used with this. Never the other way around, geez. Great, ceilings are good. On the other side is best.

Move along were done here.

Earlier in the thread someone suggested listening to the systems of some of your friends, perhaps as a point of reference. This can be helpful, but often dangerous advise!

At one point I attempted this same thing. I listened to the systems of several freinds and discovered I liked all their systems, but didn't like any of them!

Who do they think they are having systems like that??? If there was any justice in this fascist country they would be listening to beautiful heads of cabbage while I enjoyed the calming strains of Wagner on their systems!

The frustration level of all this listening was so dramatic that at the end I ran screaming in every direction possible at the same time and haven't been seen since. If anyone sees me please send me home since I am so lonely without me.

Remember, this is all an attempt to help.

Is this anything? Uhh, I dunno...Does it float? Signed, your friend Dave Letterman