"Bedini Ultra Clarifier", does it really work??


I got into a pissing contest over this question on another forum site. I would like to get opinions from those of you that have the Clarifier or even those of you that have heard a red book CD spun on the Bedini Clarifier.

Set up,
When I clean a red book CD, with the Clarifier, I always do both sides. If my memory serves me right that is what the instruction manual says to do. I also let the CD spin the full 45 seconds on each side.

I contend the Bedini Ultra Carifier does indeed work. How it works I haven't the foggiest idea.

The sure way to prove it works is to take two red book CDs of the same artist and Title. Listen to both to make sure they sound the same. Spin one in the Clarifier and do an A/B comparison of the two discs. Let me note here I realize that not all CDs are created equal. If a red book CD already sounds good thru your loud speakers then the clarifier will not make a difference. Or very little at best. But to the other extreme if a CD sounds compressed, bassi, bass loose muddy, highs rolled off, a dead sounding CD, The Clarifier will make an improvement.
Thanks for your input.

Jim
jea48
Theo, the lit says to clean both sides of the CD each time you play it, but I don't. It takes several repeated plays for the disc to start to show any degrade, in my opinion.

Tonyptony, I did basically the same thing. Friends that have the same Cds as I. We have listened to them on their systems and on mine. The results were always the same. The clarified disc sounded better. And we left the volume control set in the same place, as I am sure you did also. There was no reason to change it.

Davehrab, What you say about the label, seems to have legs. I think that is the reason you spin both sides of the CD. Any time I buy a CD with a dark colored label the Bedini will improve the CD. One of the worst CDs that sounded dead on my system was "O Brother, were art thou". The label is black. A spin in the Bedini improved it greatly. Even Diana Krall, Love Scenes sounded better after cleaned. This disc also a black label. Another Krall disc,The Girl in The Other Room. Dark red label. I do not want to leave the impression the Krall discs did not sound very good before cleaned, The Bedini did make a slight improvement. Krall's voice was fuller, richer sounding. Piano was more open and natural. Bass was even a little tighter.
Jea48, thanks for the report. My feeling is that if my friend doesn't see what CD I'm putting in (he didn't) and the equipment was exactly the same each time (it was) then it means something, at least. No, it's not a double blind A-B or A-B-X test, but I'm not sure in a case like this it's necessary. As for the Clarifier possibly doing something to the volume, maybe that's part of the point: if the Clarifier actually does something to CDs that causes the volume difference to be on the order of .2-.5 dB (based on my experience around the point where some people can reliably start to tell a difference) then it must definitely be doing SOMETHING to the disc! If that's all it's doing then somebody explain HOW?!
Jea48 ... you can always tell a Pioneer by the arrows in his back

Here is a cut and paste from a 6 Moons Audio review of the original Furutech RD1 ... maybe I should send a copy to inpepinnovations@aol.com

From the 6 Moons Audio article

Furutech claims that impurities in the weak-magnet 99% aluminum alloy of any CD's storage side contain strong-magnet elements of iron, nickel and cobalt -- as does the ink on the label side --that are inductively magnetized while repeatedly spinning inside a player. This is said to inhibit the laser's ability to pick up signal and instead triggers the error correction interpolation mechanism for reduced S/N ratio.

Unlike the Bedini which actively spins the CD over two beams, the Furutech RD-1 (and its replacement, the RD-2) use a powerful ring magnet. It first ramps up voltage to magnetize the CD resting stationary above, then reverses polarity to demagnetize the charge in what's referred to as a "loop ebbing" process.
I think that you need a magnet or body the size of the sun to effectively bend or affect light, so I fail to see how any miniscule magnetic field set up by minute iron particles in a spinning label is going to affect the laser in the reader!
I think that we need a more "plausible" explanation!