Jazz for aficionados

Frogman:

Thanks for the prompt and informative reply on the Mariachi trumpet question.

Paquito Vindicated!!! This guy can blow / bop with the best. I listened to 'Milstones' with Claudio Roditi, Paquito and Kenny Barron Great record. I guess it depends what you are playing and where and with whom. This set is live at the bluenote.

I get LULU today. Can't wait to see and hear Miss Julia.

Cheers

It's interesting concerning the backlash some have towards Wynton.It seems a badge of hipness and inter circle creditability to dis him. Too mainstream, unoriginal, lacks soul, passion, and on and on it goes.I'd love the opportunity to get any of these "hipper" musicians on the stage with him and attempt to outplay or "expose him", good luck. Just seems like typical envy and petty jealousy ("hey he gets to much undeserved praise"). Reminds me of how some people react to Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan. They're so talented and gifted that people just find reasons not to like them.

It someone doesn't like Wynton's style that a matter of taste (and that's fine) butvto say he can't play or not to acknowledge his obvious talent is just nutty.The man can flat out play the trumpet.
Regards,

Fellow Jazz Lovers:

Wynton has become the 'goto' guy in Jazz for the non-Jazz world. Need a guest on a talk show to talk about Jazz? Who you gonna call? Who gets the coverted gig at Lincoln Center? He is the face of Jazz in this country, actually the world. Don't like it, or agree, too bad.

Some feel he is not the BEST Jazz / trumpet player or indeed not even the best in his family. That does not matter. What he has, is the appropriate / required SKILL SET to represent the art form. He has it all. The education, personality, speaking ability and abouve all he KNOWS the music and it's HISTORY. And, like you said, he can play! He is a modern day Louis in that respect.

Now some players resent all this. There are not many perks in Jazz, and Wynton seems to get them all. I understand this, even if I don't agree with their attitude. The fans, are as you said. Hippness and possessors of some insight the rest of us po souls don't have, is their motivation. I understand them also.

I respect him more than any other player. He is in the arena, doing all he can to grow the music and keep it alive and relevant in today's music world. Hard to do with all the noise, static and easy undeserved money out there.

And lastly. He looks like a Jazz player! Talk about Cool and hip? That's Wynton. We need more like him!

Cheers

BTW, O-10, I get Ray and Milt today. Will Report.

Charles1dad, no one ever said Wynton couldn't play the trumpet, he just can't make music. I wouldn't disagree with someone who said he was the worlds best "trumpet player", that's different than making music. Whatever it takes, he aint got it.

He could be the most incredible "sideman" that ever lived, but by consensus of the "aficionados", his music is too "stereotypical".

Enjoy the music.

Rok,
Well said regarding Wynton.
O-10.Look, I respect your stance, we'll just respectfully disagree, he can play and also make music in my opinion.I sincerely appreciate all the contributions to this thread.We are all lovers of jazz but with individual viewpoints (as it should be).Rok and I just happen to see Wynton in the same light.

To change topics, does anyone here listen to Shirley Scott? Last night I played three CDs of her and it was pure communication taking place. Man, can she play that B3 organ wow! She swings as good as anybody regardless of the instrument.What a musician she is.
Regards,