“Real” bass vs. “Boom” — how do you know which?


Hi,

I'm working on positioning a new pair of Ohm Walsh 100's in my listening room. I think I'm getting close to an optimal positioning with regard to soundstaging and imaging, but I'm less sure when it comes to tonal balance.

How can you tell if the bass you're hearing is “real bass” vs. ”boom“ from room interactions?

Oddly shaped room, around 12' x 15', wood floors, speakers placed asymmetrically (out of necessity) along long wall: both speakers are 20 inches from rear wall. Right speaker is 16 inches from right wall, left speaker is around 5 feet from left wall. Two pieces of soft furniture: day bed (listening position) opposite speakers, and lounge chair to left of left speaker. Windows on three of four walls, with soft blinds on them, although I've generally been more pleased with the sound with the shades up.

Thanks in advance!!
rebbi
"Agreed-
a test cd will help you solve this problem."

I say, are you still living in the ice age?

Try this instead; http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/

If you want to know if you have boomy bass just take a look at your waterfall plots. Dont forget to have a hanky handy, to cry into when you see what your room/system response really is.
Bob
If you want to know if you have boomy bass just take a look at your waterfall plots!

You can see an example of a waterfall on my virtual system. It is simple to do but I suspect most "plug 'n play" folks (who consider a major upgrade to be changing an interconnect or a speaker cable) would find this approach daunting. "Nerds Only" applies! ;-)
some fine thoughts above. you already know how the sound of your favorite musics bass sounds by now i'm sure. the master speaker setup will position your speakers in your room with the bass response right. if you have not done this you should do so it just takes a little time but believe me this will get your bass sounding like you know it should. along with all other frequencys you're speakers will couple into the room for the best sound response air and bloom. test sounds and frequency readings are not music and can miss lead you on what truly can be had using music instead to position your speakers. do a search and and you can read up more about the master setup. best of luck mike
Hi Shadorne, I agree that you appear to be a nerd when using meaurements. But one appears to be a fool if not using measurements. Because a fool denies knowledge and truth.

And audiophiles are fooling themselves if they believe that freq response and waterfall etc are not indicative of exactly what you are hearing and that changing these parameters is proufoundly and easily heard. That a good inroom response is important and is significancant to help us understand what we are hearing.

You do not need to be an audiophile, trained ear, musician to tune your system. We are indeed looking for just that, a good inroom response and one without ringing (including the speakers) and low freq modal problems. This is something that can be measured. All this technology can do is assist you in getting the most from your speakers and system. What more can you ask for?

How you get there and if you want to get there is your own concern regarding this issue. But there is no denying its importance. You are course free to explore all manner of speakers and amps and TTs etc but one of the fundemental goals remains the same.

That is of course if you as an audiophile believe that freq response and ringing are important. And that indeed these can be measured

Bob