“Real” bass vs. “Boom” — how do you know which?

"Agreed-
a test cd will help you solve this problem."

I say, are you still living in the ice age?

Try this instead; http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/

If you want to know if you have boomy bass just take a look at your waterfall plots. Dont forget to have a hanky handy, to cry into when you see what your room/system response really is.
Bob

If you want to know if you have boomy bass just take a look at your waterfall plots!

You can see an example of a waterfall on my virtual system. It is simple to do but I suspect most "plug 'n play" folks (who consider a major upgrade to be changing an interconnect or a speaker cable) would find this approach daunting. "Nerds Only" applies! ;-)

some fine thoughts above. you already know how the sound of your favorite musics bass sounds by now i'm sure. the master speaker setup will position your speakers in your room with the bass response right. if you have not done this you should do so it just takes a little time but believe me this will get your bass sounding like you know it should. along with all other frequencys you're speakers will couple into the room for the best sound response air and bloom. test sounds and frequency readings are not music and can miss lead you on what truly can be had using music instead to position your speakers. do a search and and you can read up more about the master setup. best of luck mike

Hi Shadorne, I agree that you appear to be a nerd when using meaurements. But one appears to be a fool if not using measurements. Because a fool denies knowledge and truth.

And audiophiles are fooling themselves if they believe that freq response and waterfall etc are not indicative of exactly what you are hearing and that changing these parameters is proufoundly and easily heard. That a good inroom response is important and is significancant to help us understand what we are hearing.

You do not need to be an audiophile, trained ear, musician to tune your system. We are indeed looking for just that, a good inroom response and one without ringing (including the speakers) and low freq modal problems. This is something that can be measured. All this technology can do is assist you in getting the most from your speakers and system. What more can you ask for?

How you get there and if you want to get there is your own concern regarding this issue. But there is no denying its importance. You are course free to explore all manner of speakers and amps and TTs etc but one of the fundemental goals remains the same.

That is of course if you as an audiophile believe that freq response and ringing are important. And that indeed these can be measured

Bob

What happens if the measurements look good but things still don't sound right? No two people hear exactly the same, do they?

Also, I know you can measure frequency response, but how do you measure imaging accuracy and soundstage?

You can baseline accurately on measurements certainly, but you still might have to tweak from there to get things to sound best to you. Measurements are still a partial solution at best.

Plus, you have to know what you are doing to some extent in order to get the right measurements and know how to interpret them. This is not a trivial thing for many who are not technically oriented and just want to enjoy the music.

In that case, if you have the money, it might be worth it to pay someone to do it for you.