Where can one purchase lead shot for speakers?

Kenyonbm,

Why is dedicating my professional career to making the world a better place "an ax to grind"? That is a very weak argument. I confess, yes it is a giant conspiracy. You forgot to include health care professionals in your list. Also include the US Government and European Union for passing laws strictly regulating the amount of toxic materials (including lead) in new electronic products.

Since you are the expert on recycling could you suggest where to recycle the lead? I looked in my local yellow pages and of the 6 scrap recyclers only one listed lead. When I called them they would not handle small, loose scrap. They did not want any part of it.

Lead is not a common item handled by scrap companies. The only common source is from lead-acid batteries but those recyclers are an entirely different species.

Mixing lead with sand is worse. Even if it could be separated, the soft lead would probably have contaminated the abrasive sand at hazardous (by EPA regulations) levels.

Spenceroo, Finding one buyer who does not care the speakers were contaminated does not mean there are not many times that number who do care and will not purchase items contaminated thereby reducing demand and the final selling price.

Steel shot and sand appears to be the best alternative. Less expensive, no (alleged) ringing, and no hazardous materials to dispose of or disclose when selling an item. There are viable options to lead. Let's use them.

Thank you to those who understood my position and realized my arguments had not been refuted or, for the most part, even addressed. You have joined the great conspiracy.

I agree 100% that lead is not a safe material. Radiation isn't either, but millions of people get X-rays every day. I'm just trying to point out that in such a small dose, the lead will do nothing to harm you by using it in your speakers or stands. On the other hand if lead were outlawed and not made available anymore, then we'd be forced to find a substitute. As it stands now, lead shot can either sit in Wal Mart, or it can sit in my speaker stands. It's an excellent dampening material. In closing, I never said there weren't lots of people who wouldn't buy my speakers because they were lead filled. I just made it known that I didn't have any problem selling them because of it.

Kenyonbm,

I'm glad you want the world to be a better place and respect your determination.
This is a discussion and as you present your opinion I present mine.

Placing restrictions and limitations without proof only hurts. Just because their are government regulations doesn't mean we have to drink the cool-aid and not challenge them from time to time.

In this instance, these regulations and opinions hurt people who have lead filled stands and speakers and wont be able to sell them or have to sell them at a reduced price, due to statemts like yours or for people who want the freedom of choice to purchase lead shot for ammo,speakers and stand damping.

The US (CDC and EPA) or you cant provide any statistics on people getting sick or dying from lead filled stands or speakers or handling ammo.

I have checked the stats, facts and figures and in fact the incidents for sickness are so low that its not even documented for ages 6 and up, their are only stats for children exposed to open lead from paint at a ratio of 64 children out of 23 million getting high enough levels to have seizures.

So you might rather peruse trying to stop people from smoking, drinking, making love, driving cars, going to the movies; more of an issue than having lead in their speakers or stands

Your goal is to make the world a better place without lead, if you want to be persuasive be ready to provide statistics to back it up, not just that their are regulations by some agency that was funded to provide jobs.

I can prove their are no reported deaths from lead poisoning based on documents from the CDC and EPA.

I'll be glad to send them to anyone who wants them

Fin

Don-s

"I don't have to cite statistics. The regulations have already been passed...."

This is where we part ways. This is an argument from authority and not discussion.

"Lead is not a common item handled by scrap companies."

This is just plain false. There is a ready cash market in a bewildering variety of scrap metal, including lead.

You might might want to look at this,

Source: United States Geological Survey
Link: http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/lead/

"2009" (lead )Recycling: About 1.20 million tons of secondary lead was produced, an amount equivalent to 74% of reported domestic lead consumption. Nearly all of it was recovered from old (post-consumer) scrap."

So, the recycling of 1.2 MILLION TONS of lead scrap in the US last year somehow escaped your attention.

Don_s, I suggest that overstatements and the refusal to substantiate your assertions weakens your argument.

Fin1bxn, I did not post the comments you are addressing They were posted by Don_s, addressed to me. I agree with your position.

Ken