upgrade path from Dynaudio 52SE


My current setup:

Rotel RC-1082 pre
Rotel RB-1092 amp
Rega P7 TT w/Dynavector DV20XH
Graham Slee Era Gold V
Dynaudio 52SE on Stand4
Dynaudio Sub20A

Considering upgrading the 52SEs and Sub20A. I listen mostly to R&R and Blues. Would consider floorstander w/o sub. Budget is $2500.
miner42
So Miner42, upgraditis delayed for now? I didn't pile on the Rotel-Basher Bandwagon because I really like the 1082/1092 combination. That kit is definitely not "Lo-Fi". I would think set up properly with decent wires this pair could make the Dyanaudio combination you are running sound very good.

Perhaps you have already done this, but I find using a test disk/record and a not-so-expensive digital sound meter from Radio Shack to integrate the roll-off for the sub and speakers yields a tremendous return on investment. Best forty bucks and two hours I ever spent on audio.
Yes, delayed for the most part until I can decide which path to take. I enjoy seperates but may contemplate a nice integrated - McIntosh, Classe', or Krell. I am currently reading Get Better Sound and am finding most of my problems may be the default setup I have - position of cabinet in relation to speakers, etc. My Dyns have really began to open up and am thinking, as suggested, replace the electronics. What a viscious merry-go-round this is.
It is a toss-up between the Rotel amps and the Dynaudio speakers.


07-03-09: Miner42
After a lengthy listen last night I really don't kow what I could do to improve - I was very pleased with results.
If that is the case I would suggest that you stay put and don't do anything. It is a vicious cycle as once you start to change one component in your system you would start looking at the next. Having said that, if you really have the urge of improving your system and want to get a little bit more out of it, I would suggest to go with your initial plan that is to go with a speaker upgrade. Although the Rotel amps may be mid-fi, a different speaker will yield a more significant impact in sound improvement compared to a change in amps. If looking at a different speaker, I would suggest getting one that has bigger drivers in comparison to your existing Dynaudio 52SE that your room can accomodate. Speakers with bigger drivers will always sound more full and coherent compared to equivalent speakers with smaller drivers. You only need to decide whether you would still want to stick back to the Dynaudio line or consider other brand of speakers.
My solution to compromised listening room design is to sell my house and build another one!

While tuning your room, speaker and listening positions are very cost effective (and just plain effective) tweaks, you can probably get greater subtlety, detail and PRAT out of your Dynaudios with the integrated amps you suggest. In the range from $3000 to $5000 new you would have to pay for reasonably powerful Classe, McIntosh or Krell amps (although see the new Krell s-300i at $2500), I might suggest looking at these other amps too/first:

-LSA Standard
-Naim Supernait (don't be fooled by the lower power ratings)
-Pathos Logos
-Plinius 9200

If you could stretch to the $7K range new - look at these:

LSA Signature
Pass INT-150
Simaudio Moon i-7

Good Luck!
You should try and pull the Dynaudio 52SE further away from the back and side walls as noted above. Listen to this for at least 2-3 weeks and see if this improves.

Keep a log any time you walk your Dynaudio 52SE around the room.

If you have tried everything, apparently the weakest link here is your Dynaudio 52SE.

Your Rotel amp and preamp are good but they probably have better chemistry with B & W speakers than with Dynaudio speakers.

They were owned by the same investor (B & W, Rotel, and Classe) I heard that B & W used Classe and Rotel amps to test their B & W 805 series.

I talked to 2 local Rotel dealers and they both suggested me B & W speakers if I currently own a Rotel amp and that Dynaudio may not be a good match up for Rotel.

I have listened to B & W stand mount monitors before and they match very, very, very well with Rotel gears, especially the B & W 602S3 series and the B & W 805 series. They simply sing well together.

But I find that Dynaudio sounds better to my personal taste and I built my GF's setup around her Dynaudio speakers.