Speaker Question...first post on the gon


Hello. I'm wanting to put together a dedicated 2 channel system that is capable of simulating a "live" performance with blues, jazz and rock. With that being said, I value dynamics secondary to soundstage/imaging. I haven't had the opportunity to audition any speakers worth mentioning. Unfortunately, with work and other activities and a lack of dealers in my area, auditioning speakers is not even a viable option so I am hoping to make informed decisions in the used market, and with any luck find what I'm looking for the first go around. Currently the speakers in my hd (a/v?) uh, the room with my tv lol, have been pulling double duty with music. I have a Definitive setup with BP7001SC for L/R and BP3000 center and some smaller Definitive towers for rear. After much work with placement and a pair of Parasound HCA1500's bridged mono to the fronts with a small tube buffer between the amps and an H/K reciever I'm using as a pre/pro, I've managed to achieve pretty decent and dynamic soundstaging with 2 channel, for the types of music I listen to, or a decent improvement at least. I have a Parasound 5250 amp that can handle all 5 channels for movies, so for now I'm wanting to start with the 2 HCA1500's I have which are 630w at 8ohm bridged mono and use these for amplification. What speakers in the used market for $5000 or less, (preferably less :) will give me the bottom octaves at least on par with what I'm used to from my powered towers, tight/snappy midbass and a remaining audio spectrum that is musically dynamic but not fatiguing and with the ability to achieve focal imaging that essentially eliminates the sense of speakers as the source? I'm currently lookin on the gon at a pair of Vandersteen 5's (not 5a...not sure how different) and a pair of Vandersteen Quatros, mostly because I'm fairly confident that they will not disappoint in the lower octaves. Any opinions on these as well as any other speaker recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Chadnliz...what do you mean that Vandersteens don't play loudly? Mine get louder than I would want to listen to....and too...in what part of the hall do you usually get tickets? Dynamics in the 1st row are way different than the middle of the hall, or in the back. I like to sit in the middle of the hall, and for that, my Vandersteens are fine. I do suppose, you need a proper amplifier...ie, a good one with adequate muscle.
The poster said he wanted to be able to simulate live rock, while Vandersteen will play loud depending on how loud he is wanting the Vandersteen may or may not be the right speaker. I love Vandersteen String and you know that as well as anyone, hell I even heard your speakers at your home in Jersey but that isnt to say they are right for everyone. Just trying to give the guy lots to think about.
Greetings
The Vandersteen 5 would in my opinion be an awesome match with its 8 ohm steady impedance and their own self powered bass amps with adjustable room compensation will work great with the Parasounds in Bridged mode.
Because they are High passed .Bi amped this offers superb coherence,dynamics in your room when set up with little effort.
I am sure the well intended folks recommending their favs are not aware that Bridged amps are at their best with a steady 8 ohm load where these others speakers can fall down below 4 and not be at their best in that scenario.
Best Johnnyr
Another high efficiency speaker with great dynamics in your price range are the Daedalus DA-RMA's.
Parasound will tell you (at least this is what they told me) that running those amps in bridged mode is sub-optimal, and that if you want the best full bandwidth performance you should run them un-bridged. They recommend "Single Stereo" which uses only one channel of the amp, and they indicate the power output will increase by ~30% since the PS is only supplying one channel. Depending on your speakers, you could also vertically biamp.

I also agree with the statement that your HK is the weak link. I would take part of the speaker budget (ie $1000) and get a good 2 channel preamp and run it in passthru mode for HT use.