Synergistic Red Fuse ...


I installed a SR RED Quantum fuse in my ARC REF-3 preamp a few days ago, replacing an older high end fuse. Uhh ... for a hundred bucks, this little baby is well worth the cost. There was an immediate improvement upon installation, but now that its broken in (yes, no kidding), its quite remarkable. A tightening of the focus, a more solid image, and most important of all for my tastes, a deeper appreciation for the organic sound of the instruments. Damn! ... cellos sound great! Much improved attack on pianos. More humanistic on vocals. Bowed bass goes down forever. Next move? .... I'm doing the entire system with these fuses. One at a time though just to gauge the improvement in each piece of equipment. The REF-75se comes next. I'll report the results as the progression takes place. Stay tuned ...

Any comments from anyone else who has tried these fuses?
128x128oregonpapa
^^^ audiolover ...

 Its odd how during the break in procedure for the fuses the system sounds better overall than before the fuse change ... but its that hard edge on everything that's the frustrating part.  So non involving, and like you said .. "hifi like. Its also odd how the fuses come to life in one big expansion of musicality all of a sudden like at around 70 hours or so. My friends who are familiar with my system have heard this for themselves ... to their amazement. Mine too. 

Something I've been curious about are those few who have gotten no results, or negative results from the SR fuses. I'm kinda thinking perhaps they have underestimated the amount of break-in time they allowed for the fuses. 70 to 100 hours is longer than it seems. I could be wrong here, but there must be a reason the vast majority rave about the improvements and so few do not.

Gotta point out that no thread is a scientific study. There is typically a bias to some extent. Well meaning people typically tend to happily report good news but hold back on the bad. Not unique to fuse threads at all.

So I would say it is wrong to jump to a conclusion that because most people on a thread are happy users, all should or will be.

People like products all the time for good reason but not all follow the same path. No two amps or speakers sound the same and will please all for example.

Just trying to keep it real. I am happy for those getting good results.

If 80% of users are in fact happy and satisfied, I'd say that's pretty good (80/20 rule)

Audiolabryinth, happy to respond.
I like the Furutech outlets, because they are very smooth. In comparison, the Teslaplex SE has a slightly more forward upper midrange, which, on some Mercury Living Presence CDs, can be a bit intense. My wall outlet is the Furutech, but I swapped out the outlet on the PS Audio Power Plant 300 a year or two ago, and put in a Teslaplex SE. conversely, on vocals, the Teslaplex - to my ears - more readily reveals the gutsiness of Aretha’s voice, as well as other Black singers and even David Clayton-Thomas of Blood, Sweat & Tears, whose voice you can clearly hear straining at times, which the Furutech does NOT do. The Furutech is more refined, and that’s great but Aretha is NOT a refined singer, she is a bring-it-home sister like I’d hear in church growing up. Hence the Furutech at the wall, and the Teslaplex in the PS Audio. I have another Teslaplex SE, and I might put that in the wall to hear what changes are wrought, but that MIGHT become too edgy. And then again, maybe not, since the new fuse is audibly smoother than the SR20 that was previously in the Arcam. Hmmm... For now, here’s what’s interesting.

When I had the SR20 in the Arcam, the sound, plugged into the Teslaplex, was a bit too harsh for my ears. Brass had an unquestionable edge on almost ANY Mercury CD (and yes, I know they used bright microphones back then, so maybe the Teslaplex was just revealing the ’truth,’ but I don’t think so: it was a little TOO much ’truth’ to my ears. BUT. BUT. As soon as I put in the Quantum Black - from the first CD - I was aware that the harshness was gone. Then, when I read Cymbop’s description of cymbals, I though, ’Now, that’s REALLY interesting, because I have had the opposite effect. The leading transient is less ’hashy’ or white-noise sounding compared to having the SR20 in there (I never put a Red into the Arcam) and as for the dimensionality, read on a couple of sentences. Something else: I noticed that the tension of the music is slightly less than before, almost as if the music is being played at a slightly slower pace. End result? Less impact, and as a corollary, I also noticed that somewhere around the lower parts of the upper bass down into the upper-midbass, the sound is not as physical - or as HP would put it - it has less ’authority’, so I’m with Cymbop on this point. Hence, the lessening of dimensionality, or 'flatness' he discerned.

Since the midbass is what gives instruments their sense of ’solidity’ (that’s why the original WATTs sounded so holographic: the sound was weighted towards the midbass, but you only heard it with a Rowland Coherence preamp, which had a center-of-the-earth gravity from the lower midrange down to the low bass (as Dave Wilson noted in issue 47 of TAS) and then later, around 1988, when he came out with the first generation of the Puppies. Now, any lessening of the midbass WILL make images seem flatter, and I did encounter that with the RCA Living Stereo CD of Dvorak’s New World Symphony, where cut 9 is the beginning of Lt. Kije. The trumpet was less focused and ’present.’ I thought perhaps I’d moved a tube trap (even jarring them off by 1/8" can affect subtle sonics), but I hadn’t. So, the bass is clearer, but very slightly more lightweight, although I then followed that with the Labelle CD ’Nightbirds’ (you know, the one with Lady Marmalade’s famous ’voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir’ phrase on it). I’d never been impressed with the bass on that CD, yet there was WAY more of it than i was used to - and I noticed that the NAD volume setting was at a lower volume, too! Some mysteries, as well as ecstacies, live in the Quantum Black. None of the positive statements I said were wrong, but I also hear the - again - VERY SLIGHT loss of focus on instruments, although the overall presentation is more transparent and immediate, and, along with that low, low, low noise floor, it’s ZOWIE. (And the highs, on my system, were superior to the pre-Quantum era.) It does seem, though, on solo instruments, particularly guitars, that the instruments are more physically there, but on symphonies, there is, perhaps, a bit less image specificity and kick on the bass drums. Again, I think it’s somewhere in the lower part of the upper bass/midbass that the focus and specificity is not as secure as it was when the fuse was only at, say, 20 hours.
The larger picture is that the noise floor is SO much lower, and there is GREATLY reduced grain between you and the music, particularly on voice, both male and female, and more passion IN those voices than before that you might not notice the bass (and who knows, it could be that I have to rearrange the Stillpoint Ultra Mini Risers). BUT, Patti Labelle was unquestionably more forceful sounding on ’What Can I Do For You?’ as were both Nona Hendryx and Sarah Dash, and their harmonies were more separated (not that the NAD is the MASTER in this regard, but you get my point). I’ve had mine for a week and find it fantastic, but I support Cymbop’s observations.
I think we must all accept that there is no perfect component, and even if there is, when it comes to fuses, we have - most of us - had enough experience to realize the fuse is not perfect in every application, and it is a matter of finding the right location where it will show its magic. That magic may not be in every component. The Arcam Fmj 23 , for example, does not have "thunderous" midbass, and this was noted by a colleague who wrote about it in issue 136 of TAS. So, its bass dynamics are not the last word. The Quantum Black, after break in, may be showing that it, too, has great definition in some areas of the bass, rather than sheer quantity of bass. I don’t know: we’ll have to swap stories here on the forum and note the equipment we have, and how that equipment USUALLY sounds in the bass, both -pre and -post Quantum Black.

For all that, it is by far the most instantly striking fuse of all that I’ve used, meaning, it takes NO time to hear what it does. BUT, it does actually seem to be have more midbass when you first put it in than at 100 hours. I’ll check my observations, but that’s how it sounds to my ears.
And DavidPritchard, thanks for clearing that up.
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Wow! Now that's what I call a cogent post. Thanks. 

" So, the bass is clearer, but very slightly more lightweight, although I then followed that with the Labelle CD ’Nightbirds’ (you know, the one with Lady Marmalade’s famous ’voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir’ phrase on it). I’d never been impressed with the bass on that CD, yet there was WAY more of it than i was used to..."

I have a recording (Vinyl) on the Pablo label featuring Milt Jackson (vibes), Ray Brown (bass) Monty Alexander (organ) and Mickey Roker drums. Its a live recording of a concert that took place in a London nightclub in 1982.  The recording is a tribute to "Monk." 

On side one, cut three, Ray Brown is playing a solo using his bow on the bass for the entire side. The tune is "Round Midnight." Its a terrific test of the bass response of any system. I played it several times with broken in SR Red fuses and also with the SR Blacks. Its progressively gotten better with each fuse change. Its to the point now that when Ray Brown hits the very lowest notes, the bass reverberates and projects into the room to the extent that it makes my chest vibrate.  Its quite amazing and totally realistic.
Frank,
Pablo is a label that's consistently very  good with their high quality level musicians. I love jazz bassists who play Con Arco,  so beautiful. I'll have to seek out this live recording,  you can never own too many Milt Jackson recordings.  I have a bunch. Frank what's the title of this recording? 
Charles,