Jazz for aficionados

Hi O-10 - thanks for the response, which again is quite good, as far as it goes.  The problem is, as Alex tried to point out, it doesn't really go far enough.  As he says, you have dismissed many things without explanation that others have written on this board, because they don't fit in with your perceptions.  Sometimes, this is perfectly fine, as when we are speaking of personal taste, something truly subjective.  But other times, what is being discussed is something objective, but which you do not understand - so you say that it must really be subjective.  That's where the problem is, in a nutshell.  You do not really know the subject, so you sometimes cannot tell whether something is objective or subjective.  It is clearly incorrect to dismiss anything you do not understand and label it subjective, which is basically what you have done.  Those who are knowledgeable on the particular subject see this immediately, but you do not and cannot.  For instance, take your "nuts and bolts" comment in one of your later posts.  You said "In regard to the nuts and bolts, those who regard such in their "jazz" music, make it quite clear, because some of their preferences sound like it."  This makes absolutely no real sense - you know nothing of the "nuts and bolts", and do not want to.  Fine - this much you understand.  Problem is, what you do not understand is that your perception of the "nuts and bolts" is false - it is obvious to anyone who does know even a little about the "nuts and bolts" that you have absolutely no idea of what effect they have (or have had) on anyone's playing, or the music they make, or the sound they make; yet you speak as if you can tell how someone's preferences sound in reference to that.  This is just one example.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hikhsgu2XmY

See if you can locate the various greats from this band. Nice solo by Kenny Garrett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwR6jeSnE8I

Rok, I am still trying to get through the Bernard Perdie CD. I have Soul to Jazz II. Will report back once complete.

Mel Lewis (d), Jim McNeely (p), John Lockwood (b)

saxes, left to right:
Joe Lovano, Kenny Garrett, Dick Oats, Gary Prebeck, Gary Smulyan

bones:
Earl McYntire, Doug Purviance, John Mosca, ? (don't recognize), 
french horn:
Barbara

trumpets:
Tom Harrell, Earl Gardner, Joe Mosello, John Marshall (I think?)

I agree, nice solo by Kenny Garrett.  Band sounds great. Thanks.

Thanks for the lineup.

This year is the 50th year, of the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Jazz Orchestra . Thad left in 1978 and the Mel Lewis Jazz Orchestra lasted until Mel Lewis's death in 1990. They changed their name to the Vangard Jazz Orchestra . Still going strong.