Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
****The unwashed need answers.****

Why? Imo, some WANT answers; two different things.

****The questions become, is the evolution an improvement?****

Why does it have to be, or is expected to be, an "improvement"? Is Joe Henderson playing a ballad an "improvement" over Lester Young playing a ballad? Different and each a reflection of its time (****Evolution is a response to environment****). As always, whether any one of us likes one particular style better than another is a reflection of ourselves and our sensibilities relative to the world around us. The only thing that is a "dead end" is the need to put those qualifications on art. Now, if you really want to use criteria that gives a measure of excellence (or not) with something resembling an objective standard you have to look at the level of CRAFT and criteria used to judge that; and, no, those criteria are not purely subjective. You know.....that phrase that rhymes with "putz and dolts". It is, of course, not only about the craft; but, that road inevitably leads back to us (dead end).

****Guys trying to be different on purpose does not count as natrual****

Do you think, for one minute, that Bird and Trane didn’t "cultivate" their individuality? Every player sets out to find his/her voice and does so through a combination of inspiration and the hard work of trying new things; everything from developing harmonic concepts in their playing to trying fifty different saxophone mouthpieces to get the tone that they hear for themselves in their head. Bottom line:

You like the more traditional music (no problem) and seem to have a need to deem it "superior" to more contemporary music for some reason that is your very own. I don’t have that need and find it very limiting. I appreciate the excellence in the new and the old as long as certain other criteria are met. However, you don’t love or appreciate the traditional any more than I do. Excluding the non-traditional does not enhance our appreciation of the traditional; in fact, it limits it. You like the traditional and dislike the modern (I am generalizing, of course). There’s no problem with that. So, either you are correct and there are no worthy modern trends in music; or, I’m an idiot for thinking that there are.  Importantly, it should be pointed out, again, which side of the coin does the bashing of the other.  

Do you think, for one minute, that Bird and Trane didn’t "cultivate" their individuality? Every player sets out to find his/her voice and does so through a combination of inspiration and the hard work of trying new things; everything from developing harmonic concepts in their playing to trying fifty different saxophone mouthpieces to get the tone that they hear for themselves in their head. Bottom line:

Although the above is true, it contains in it, the inherent belief that any musician who did these things could be as good as "Trane" Miles or "Bird"; that's not true. Regardless what you do, if you were not given at birth, whatever differentiates those musicians from the rest of us, you can only be a good sideman, or mediocre leader.

"You can be what you want to be"; that's true only to a certain extent; we are talking about famous jazz musicians who were the best; you can only be the best if you were given something at birth, that for lack of a better word is called "talent".

Within them, the very best jazz musicians know that they have something that's so exclusive, that very few will be able to duplicate what they can do, and are doing; they know this even if they are at the bottom financially. While that doesn't suffice for "In God We Trust" in the pockets, it's what keeps those musicians who are not financially successful, going on another day. Read what Miles had to say about "Bird" to verify that.

In regard to "individuality"; that is something musicians "discover" while in the process of becoming a good musician.


Enjoy the music.
****Although the above is true, it contains in it, the inherent belief that any musician who did these things could be as good as "Trane" Miles or "Bird";****

Not so, and I'm not suggesting any such thing.  That's quite a leap and don't see how or why you made that leap based on what I wrote.  Otherwise, I'm pretty much in agreement.

While I don't have Rok's same appreciation for the "traditional" such as "Nawlins" jazz, I share his appreciation for the "classic" jazz musicians. And that came about since this thread, which means before this thread, I was in constant search for something "new".

"You Tube" has exposed how much "classic" jazz that's not in my collection, and technology has been able to improve the recording of those records. Now I have a choice of going forward, or remaining stationary in regard to time. (meaning records).

"You Tube" has also exposed the fact that some of those musicians were so advanced, that their most advanced music didn't sell, and went out of print. (meaning they quit making those records, but still have the tapes) With such a wide range of choices, and the ability to go back in time, I can review this wealth of "new old" music and decide how to use my limited resources in both time and money. Presently, the "new old" music is keeping me in my listening room a whole lot more.


Enjoy the music.
Looked at some reviews today, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who liked the Danny Green Trio's record. Doesn't necessarily mean I am right, but at least not the only one, except Frogman. 

Frogman sure has a lot of Minion's! I bet it is a conspiracy.

http://originarts.com/oa2/recordings/recording.php?TitleID=22128

not as glowing , but not bad

http://www.downbeat.com/default.asp?sect=news&subsect=news_detail&nid=3326