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Difference between micro line and gyger s stylus

I see that Benz has switched from a micro line stylus tip to the gyger s stylus tip. What differences both in sound and set up should a person expect? Pro's and Con's on both are welcome.

Also, would one style work better or worse on my Naim ARO unipivot tonearm mounted on LP12?

Thank you,
Don
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jcarr
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Arnold, very interesting! In my experiments, changing the stylus from a small side radius (including an microridge) to a larger one kept styrene records from being chewed up. Other parameters were kept the same, so I have fair confidence that the size of the side radius is a core factor.

And yet there are individuals like yourself who report being able to play styrene records with microridge stylii and get no damage. 'Tis a mystery.

The V15VxMR had low vertical tracking force requirements, so that could be one factor.

Also, if you look at the second table here http://www.shure.com/proaudio/products/djphonocartridgesandneedles/ssLINK/us_pro_djlibrary_phonograph

you can see that while the 3.0mil front radius computes to 75um (which is per Namiki's design), the side radius of 0.15 computes to 3.75 (larger than Namiki's original design specifications of 2.5um).

It could be that Shure uses a variant of the MR modified to have a larger side radius.

regards, jonathan carr
arnold_layne
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Too bad shure doesn't make the V15Vxmr anymore. I can't believe they stopped production on it. Probably the best moving magnet cartridge value out there. What I may do is buy a M97XE which is priced under $100. It uses an elliptical stylus. I'll experiment and see if it shreds styrene. If it doesn't, I may just purchase an extra arm wand for the JMW-9 and use the Shure just for 45's when needed. I'll keep the dynavector 20XL for LP use.

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harold-not-the-barrel
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Why SHURE stopped production on the mighty ULTRA 500 is a mystery.
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nandric
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Happy us J.Carr is still among us. What a relief! . I want to explain the following. The so called ''Gyger styli'' are designed by Van den Hul for Gyger. The Gyger 1 was difficult to produce but so was the Gyger 2 so he than designed the ''S''. Van den Hul never produced his own styli but made an arangement with Gyger such that he was

entitled to sell Gyger under his own (trade) name. But he deed not

mark them as 1,2, or S but used the ''general reference'' Van den Hul. That is to say without distinction between 1, 2 and S.

BTW Lukatschek from Benz moved from ''Gyger S'' to micro-ridge

not the other way round. To my knowledge Jan Allaerts is still

using the ''S''. 

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