Jazz for aficionados

Rok, my post was meant to inform, and criticize Ken Burns in regard to us. While programs like Ken Burns are excellent for many others, I feel we are far too advanced for those types of programs; our discussions should be more into the "voices" of the different musicians. Miles for example had a trumpet "voice" that was different from any trumpet before him.

I also feel that when any of us find a musician we like, but are unfamiliar with, that we should all see what else that musician has to offer in order to increase our collection, and use "You tube" to do it; this is what they want you to do. The more exposure, the better the chances are for one of us to buy that artist's CD. I've bought a number of CD's based on your submission, acman3's post, or Frogman's recommendation on "You tube"; so it's a win win for "You tube" and the artist, that's what they are there for. Initially artists objected to their material on "you tube" without their permission, but after discovering that this increased exposure, increased their bottom line, they no longer objected; as a matter of fact, I've seen stuff that was removed come back on "you tube".

Charlie Ventura is apparently new to all of us, and I like his "musical voice". Our chances are better for finding something else by him when we go on a combined search on you tube. Since Frogman has yet to respond, he may know of something else by Charlie.

There is no better way to purchase new music than "like it or not", and our chances of finding new music we like have increased exponentially because we've been communicating on this thread for so long, that we should almost have a "mind meld".

Listening, hearing, and sharing what you heard with us, all go together; from now on, say it with a musical post, and then I'll know what you're talking about.

Enjoy the music.

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*****Rok, my post was meant to inform, and criticize Ken Burns in regard to us. While programs like Ken Burns are excellent for many others, I feel we are far too advanced for those types of programs******

I disagree. I liked it for it's historical value. Just like Nica's book. Burns is often criticized, mostly by folks that feel their favorite players / tunes were omitted, or given short riff. You can, could've / should've anything to death. It was a brilliant series. Also a gift from my son.

I have a few of the CDs. Guys like Sidney Bechet, I felt the sound quality would be the best avaliable for the old stuff.

I do realize that all the other folks on this thread are far more 'advanced' than I am, concerning Jazz. However, they are not so advanced, as to be able to dismiss one of the premier film makers of this era.

Burns did a great service to Jazz and Jazz fans. The Jazz scene is not exactly running over with supportive media the quality of Burns' documentary.

He best work is probably THE CIVIL WAR. I listen to that soundtrack on CD often.

He is a relative of the Poet, Robert Burns. I served with an Officer named Burns in Germany, who was also a decendant of Robert Burns. The similarity was stunning.

Cheers

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****Charlie Ventura is apparently new to all of us, and I like his "musical voice". Our chances are better for finding something else by him when we go on a combined search on you tube.*****

Following your orders, I did search him out and listened to a lot of his stuff. It was all Ok. Just didn't grab my attention. Besides all the stuff seemed to be taken directly from an LP. Lots of clicks and pops. The recordings did show the age in which they were recorded. Sounded muffled. Like the juke box playing in a 1940's film-noir, grade B movie. Reminded me of my old Dual 1229Q. Where is my Burwen? :)

I don't understand why everyone is going Gaga over Ventura, and no one had anything good to say about Andy Bey and the Sisters. A huge step up, in my, less advanced opinion.

Cheers

*****Listening, hearing, and sharing what you heard with us, all go together; from now on, say it with a musical post, and then I'll know what you're talking about*******

Good point. I don't listen to just Jazz. This is my latest listen. Don't listen to this one late at night when all alone. Another of the Delta Greats. Lyon Mississippi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdgrQoZHnNY

Cheers

Rok, I appreciate your honesty; if ken Burns was a gift from my son, I would cherish it to death. Nica's book is not in the same category.

"Charlie Ventura": he answered many of our personal questions in regard to how advanced we are in "Modern Jazz". Frogman will have to answer your question in regard to Charlie compared to Andy Bey and the Sisters, he has a way with words.

While Delta Blues is not, nor ever has been "my Thing", I'll give "Son House" a listen.

Music is a cultural, social, and economic expression; that is most apparent when you examine the music on this forum. I'm the city, primarily St. Louis and Chicago; a Chicago that no longer exists, but since I lived it, it still exists in my memory.

I just realized how much my last post was a personal expression, as opposed to one that speaks for others who're participating in this thread, because "advanced" was in reference to modern jazz exclusively. Jazz from a historical point of view, is irrelevant to me at this stage. My primary objective is to increase my collection, and that's become rather difficult.

Enjoy the music.