avr receiver help

"i was also thinking that they would sound better with a more relaxed,warmth sounding av receiver but i don't know much about each receivers sound qualitys..."

Harmon Kardon AVR354 will fit that description, sonically, for new. Plus you'll have the newest codec's (don't know why you'd settle for inferior resolution, otherwise). Used, most any Denon - the better ones obviously more expensive on used market. So shop around. Also, yes, the Arcam used is superb sounding, but no new codes, HDMI, and no EQ (I think).

"i was thinking to go seperates but do not want to go overboard".

You do have $8k speakers, why would you have $8k speakers and drive em with cheaper electronics?
Overboard? You can easily put together a budget separates system for maximum sound in that budget. You could do a moded HK AVR354, and have money left over for a good outboard amp from Rotel,Parasound,Adcom, etc, that will improve sound, no doubt!
good luck

The Onkyo 805 was $599 yesterday at Amazon. That's a seriously good deal. The 805 is a powerhouse and has great features and connectivity.

Arcam AVR 350
a few listed here on audiogon

no hdmi, but the analog outs sound clearly superior

in response to the last two posts, i saw those adds but i got to make up my mind on what brand receiver is going to work best with my infinity speakers, i do not know about the new onkyos but my brother has about a five year old onkyo 500 something in the mid price range running infinity overture 3's and he told me that it does not pick up fm signals all that well, is that a problem with the newer onkyos.
greg

I don't even use the radio in my Onkyo. I use a Squeezebox to fill my radio needs.