High End Ethernet Cables ....Real Deal or Snake Oil


Digital streaming and network-based storage systems are now mainstream. I have notice more and more cable companies are coming out with 'fancy' Ethernet cables ranging from $25-$2500. 

Purist Audio, Cardas, Chord, Wireworld and Stealth Audio to name a few.  I am assuming, AudioQuest is probably the first manufacturer to recognized the potential for a fancy Ethernet cable and started this trend (sorry no offense to anyone). 

Let's for a moment assume that there is a audible difference in sound quality when streaming music files from a NAS or intranet to a server. Ethernet is an error corrected transmission protocol, it is going to be bit perfect. Are these fancy cables banking on the same principles of other digital (SPDIF/XLR) cables ~ a well made cable reduces the margin of errors resulting in less requests for re-sends, and if there are less errors and subsequent re-sends, perhaps this higher performance results in less noise, fewer dropouts at the receiving end, and subsequently better sound quality?

I do not know a lot about networking so I chose an easier path to stream music in my rig. My setup involves a music server, DAC and Apple Extreme base. 

I am wondering how many of you using a high end Ethernet cable vs. a generic Ethernet cable. 

Is there a test data or device that tells us how many errors and re-sends happen in Ethernet data transmissions to justify the use of uber 'pricey' ethernet cables? 

Thank you all for your feedback! 
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Are these fancy cables banking on the same principles of other digital (SPDIF/XLR) cables ~ a well made cable reduces the margin of errors resulting in less requests for re-sends, and if there are less errors and subsequent re-sends, perhaps this higher performance results in less noise, fewer dropouts at the receiving end, and subsequently better sound quality?
Under typical circumstances the reason S/PDIF and AES/EBU cables can make a difference is related to timing jitter at the point of D/A conversion, which in turn can be affected by waveform degradation resulting from impedance mismatches between the cable and the components it is connecting, and by electrical noise resulting from ground loop effects and/or RFI pickup, both of which can be affected by the characteristics of the cable. Ethernet is a somewhat different story, since the timing of the signals it conveys is unrelated to the timing of D/A conversion.

I have no specific knowledge of how frequently retransmission of ethernet data occurs under typical circumstances in a home environment. I suspect, however, that what is much more likely to have audible consequences in most cases is that any cable that is conducting high speed digital signals, such as an ethernet cable, and that is located in physical proximity to the audio system (e.g., in the same room), can radiate or couple RFI into the audio system. And in addition, noise conducted into the destination component via the cable could to some degree (depending on the specific design) conceivably couple around the ethernet interface circuitry and into other circuitry within that component that is more directly involved in processing the audio. Including circuitry that may be sensitive to noise-induced jitter.

None of this necessarily means, however, that an ethernet cable costing hundreds or thousands of dollars would be any more beneficial than an upgrade to a very modestly priced cable. You may wish to consider experimenting with inexpensive shielded ethernet cables, as member Bryoncunningham described doing in this thread, with significant sonic benefit resulting. (I consider him to be a particularly astute and perceptive listener, btw, and one who is very thorough in his approaches to evaluating tweaks and optimizing his system. Unfortunately, though, he hasn’t been posting here in recent times). See the posts in that thread dated on and around 2-16-12. Inexpensive ethernet cables are commonly unshielded, but good quality shielded cables are also readily available at low prices.

Regards,
-- Al

Another excellent response Al
I have heard differences with Ethernet cables. They are not huge but are there. 
Alan
Thank you all for your feedback. I am going to try couple of cables for A/B blind test. 

Al, appreciate your detailed response and for sharing Bryon's thread. Very informative, learned a great deal.  


I would think you would need to use the same cable from your device all the way to the router or switch, not just the last couple of feet. Plus, you're still using the crappy wall plates. If it does matter, then I would run a continuous Ethernet cable from the device all the way to the router or switch and bypass the wall plate. How much would a 100' Ethernet cable cost from audioquest?
@rbstehno,  I am using a pair of Apple AirPort Extreme base stations. Since my AT@T router is 60 feet away from streamer, this setup allows me to create a wired 'dedicated' intranet for streaming.  

The ethernet cable upgrade will be between Apple routers which are located 3 feet away from my server and AT&T router. And these routers are plugged into Audience line conditioners.