Placement tips for Synergistic Research HTFs


I just bought 15 HTFs and will also be making about a dozen of Ozzie's homemade models.  While I will re-fresh myself with SR's placement tips, and I get that I will have to do some experimenting to tailor the HFT effect to MY listening room; are there any "Advanced HFT Placement Tips" some of you would like to share with us?  Something that might be overlooked by many of us?  Or maybe, just a good rule-of-thumb tip for someone just starting to use these?
The tips could be tips for bring out more highs, solidifying the bass response, placement hi vs low, in front of vs behind speakers, on side walls, at reflection points, behind the listener, on the ceiling above the equipment or above the listener, on the equipment.
Any ah-ha that you would like to share?  I would also be very interested in hearing from people using Magnapans.

toolbox149
Thanks for the great write up, toolbox. Today I took all the DIY resonator cups off the walls and speakers. I'll probably throw them away. But I did have a ton of fun making them and playing with them for the past couple of weeks. I thought these things deepened the sound stage... but I was wrong. I was simply trying to defend my investment ($30 and labor and expectations). Just a placebo effect.




Well, I went from a gazillion resonators down to just ten.  With the smaller amount,  I do hear a nice addition to, and a repositioning of my soundstage.  Not the groundbreaking, earthshaking change some have stated, but a nice little tweak, nonetheless.  I'm happy!
My most pleasurable gain came by adding a resonator to each side of my front speakers. The outside resonators provided me with a slightly wider stage but also more ambiance. The inward facing resonators brought the singers and main instraments closer in toward center stage while providing much more definition for the individual parts.  This was done with just four resonators.  I got a little greedy and doubled the resonators (now with four facing inward and four facing out) with the new resonators placed about 15-18" below the first resonators.  The result was more muddy and harsh.
So now, I'm a confirmed minimalist when it comes to using these things.
Hopefully, you don't throw your resonators away.  Maybe after some time with no resonators, you might try adding one to the inside of both your speakers or maybe try the outside edge.  For me, I found that having my inward facing resonators at ear level (when seated) and my outward facing ones about 1 - 1.5 feet higher gave me the best reward.  That's as high off the floor as I would ever want to go.
But in the end, it's all about what makes the best music to you and your ears only.  So, if you end up liking music better without them - leave em' in a box.
BTW I have a couple of different versions of your resonators and they work very well for me.  I just built a few more smaller resonator types so I could test if different cone sizes affect different frequencies.  I also used heavier and lighter bases for the resonators to find out if the base material affects the sound.  Hopefully, I'll have the time to do the testing a couple of times, and write up a report soon.  I'm gonna try get it out this weekend or maybe early next week.  
Thanks for all your help.

Toolbox
Jkbtn - yeah, it’s a very subtle effect, much less noticeable than cable changes. If I had paid serious money for these, I’d be not very happy, or telling myself they work better than they do. Though maybe the official ones work better. Though I’m sceptical. Very sceptical.

I agree they are fun to make, and I’m content with their performance relative to my time and money outlay.

Toolbox - I'm interested to hear your results with the different sizes/weights.. thanks again.
Just as I predicted and thanks again for the detailed report, Toolbox. More is not more sometimes. Lol

The problem with going off a little bit half cocked as it were with these transducers and resonators is that it very easy to do more harm than good. And without knowing what to look for in terms of results one is tempted to jump to certain conclusions too quickly. Once you have committed to a bunch of placements that are not "good" it’s very difficult to correct for these mistakes down the road, I.e., by adding more and more. The damage has already been done. It’s what we call going too far. Icarus ignored his father's warnings and went too far too fast and fell to his death. 😥

Are the real and more expensive transducers and resonators more effective than these DIY jobbers? Has anyone here read the reviews of the real McCoys, you know, the Franck Tchang resonators made of pure platinum or silver or gold, the ones DIYers abhor? 😧 Or the real SR transducers? It’s a lot like trying to knock off Shun Mook Mpingo discs without understanding the principles involved. Or trying to make bread without the benefit of a recipe.

So this is all about the transmission of polarities of shear from one solid material to another..something that isolation fails to address.
Geometric shapes primarily are the most important aspect of this transfer system and then the actual shear velocity of the material or materials. Compression waves when they contact any solid surface become shear waves which become trapped within isolation forms and systems contained in and on devices..walls and chassis, speaker boxes and other components all to be remixed with the signal you wish to maintain. Motors, transformers and speakers and the vinyl LP all these generate shear waves of which,  some polarities are a necessary part of sound reproduction..one polarity is not useful but harmful to the transfer of energy and detrimental to sound integrity. Tom