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Speaker match for PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated?

Hey Guys,
Wondering about speaker match for PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated.
Using KT150 and Mullard CV4003. So maybe 50 watts in triode and 100 watts in ultralinear.
Don't like ultralinear much. (GeorgeHiFi linked some curves showing ringing in ultralinear:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/primaluna-dialogue-premium-hp-tube-rolling-suggestions-to-red...)
Setup is in a small room currently. Had used Revel F206 (which I still have) and now Zu Druid MK IV.
Revels sound pretty good but I don't think they show their best with limited tube power.
Plenty of power for the Druid, and it sounds pretty good but response curve seems uneven to me.
So Revel nice response curve but a little tame. Druid pretty lively/ fun but uneven tonal balance.
Anyone have a particular favorite speaker match up for that amp in the $3K-$5K range?

leotis
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georgehifi
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With the Prima Luna in 4ohm triode mode which is it’s healthier looking output, you haven’t got a lot of grunt there to play with.
I think out of the two speakers you mentioned the Druid is by far the better match impedance wise and efficiency wise if you like their sound.
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/zu20/plot1_big.png

To me I would like the Revels better, "with the right amp" but this graph of the 208 is said to be similar to the 206 as you can see there are current hungry loads at 30hz and 60-150hz and again at 3khz all with highish -phase angles.
https://www.stereophile.com/images/714R208fig1.jpg

My suggestion is to keep the Revels and get the right amp, which will then drive "most" things down the track.

Cheers George
smrex13
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Actually, I think we're confusing two different models with the measurements on the ringing.  If I'm not mistaken, the Stereophile measurements cited in the previous post were taken with the Dialogue Premium Amp, not the "HP" version and not the integrated.  

The Premium HP integrated was also reviewed by Stereophile, and it was given a pretty clean bill of health.  JA says it measured well for a P/P amp using EL34s.  That's not to say that you don't hear brightness, but it might be elsewhere in the system if you have the Integrated HP.

Best, Scott
aniwolfe
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@georgehifi 

George lets get this right. What are the graphs for the integrated amps? Thanks
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georgehifi
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I didn't post any here, they are on another thread. And John Alexander backs it in his measurement conclusion.
https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/1425159

Cheers George

 
fritzspeaks
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You may want to take a look at my FritzSpeakers Carbon 7SE model which are below your budget.  With the smooth series crossovers they are very easy to drive even with low powered tube amps.  Conventional crossover impedance curves usually look like a mountain range with large peaks and valleys.  With a tube amp, this will result in an uneven frequency response with bumps and suck-outs due to the fact that tube amps will deliver more power to the frequencies with the higher impedance peaks.

http://fritzspeakers.com/Images/speakers/Carbon7SEimpedancePhaseGraph900.jpg

fritzspeakers.com/DreamWeaverFritzImpedancePage.asp

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