What are some of the downsides of owning a Magneplanar .7 or 1.7i ?


Thinking of moving up speaker wise, and so am considering  the fabled Magneplanar speakers, that is, either the  the .7, or supposedly new 1.7i.   (BTW, I am not sure the Maggie .7 is necessarily an upgrade, and has less bass than my current box speakers...see below)

Besides "Maggies" having outdated speaker terminals that might be a struggle with banana plugs,, and they are generally power hungry, I am curious if anyone can honestly tell me of any other downsides of this design.  For the last 30 years, I have owned several traditional box design speakers. 

I currently have a pair of Golden Ear Technology model 7's....which I like and generally sound good However, I  would like to confirm what a planar design brings to the table in sound quality. I have read many times about the box-less sound  provided by this design, and its wide sound staging and low distortion. 

I think I have enough power with BAT VK-200 amp (100RMS) to drive the .7, but not sure that is enough to drive the MG1.7i. to higher volumes The pre-amp is a Conrad Johnson PV-14SE. 

The listening room area 12 X15ft, but opens into kitchen/dining area divided by a medium size couch. The rest of the space is approximately 12X18ft behind the sofa with a stupid counter island ( so I cannot move the sofa back any further.. The ceiling is 8 to 9 ft feet high ( not a cathedral ceiling, praise the Lord) . It is a bit of haul to the dealer I bought the Golden Ear T's from who also carries Magneplanar line.  All advice welcomed.    Thanks, SJ   

sunnyjim
I've owned the MMG, 1.7i's, 3.7's, and 3.7i's and would say that Magnepans need a lot of room behind them to really reach their full potential.  I'd say a minimum of 5'--preferable more.
4 pairs I owned did their best square in the middle of the room.
As is common, I put tape on that spot and left them against wall when not playing .
"4 pairs I owned did their best square in the middle of the room. "

Of course if this is where you placed your speakers and found them to have the most satisfying sound that is just fine and of course very audiophile must decide for him/her self what qualities of their Music Reproduction System they find most essential and what characteristics they are willing to compromise in exchange for those preferred qualities. That said, placing just about any speaker but especially one with a dipolar radiation pattern such as Magneplanar "square in the middle" of a room is not consistent with their intended use and certainly not in compliance with their design objectives again especially with Magneplanars.

By putting your speakers "square in the middle" of the room you are getting essentially monophonic sound from your Music Reproduction System. Again this is fine if its' your preference but if your preference is for monophonic sound it would probably be a best course of action to use a single speaker with a single monophonic amplifier and keep everything in the Music Reproduction System monophonic all the way through.

With those speakers relying on a dipolar radiation pattern, placing the speakers square in the middle of the room you have essentially identical sound propagation both front and rear and when these waves meet at the ears of the listener they tend to cancel out. Of course this will not happen exactly that way because of subtle and slight variations in reflections within the room containing the Music Reproduction System but nevertheless the tendency is there an you are going to achieve a very uneven frequency response as a result of this very unusual practice of placing speakers square in the middle of the room.

Again I mean no disrespect to Mr. Shubert and his preferences in sound reproduction but this recommendation for placing speakers square in the middle of a room is most unusual and not likely to satisfy the majority of listeners.
clearthink,

What you are saying about getting mono sound from Maggies in the middle of the room isn't making sense to me.  First, it doesn't seem to make theoretical sense.  Second, in practice, I used to have Quad 63s (diopoles) in essentially the middle of my room and they produced stupendous stereo sound and imaging.  (I tend to like closer to nearfield listening, so most of my speakers end up closer to the middle of the room).

I've never, ever heard a speaker of any type, dipole or otherwise, sound mono by being placed well out into a room.  And placing a speaker into the room tends to minimize room issues.
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