LP's... Do they sound better now than 30 yrs ago?


Thinking about getting back into LP's. Do they sound better than they did 30 yrs ago? I remember , no matter how well you cleaned them and how well you treated them they always( after 1 or 2 plays) sounded like crap! Pops and clicks. Scratched easy. Are they better made? Thicker? I don't want clicking and popping over my system!                Thanks for your input!



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Listen to a modern reissue by Analog Productions / Quality Records or MoFi and they will take your head off they sound so amazing.  
However it does take a fairly decent vinyl setup (cart/tuentable/phono preamp) properly set up to get there.  noise is rarely a pervasive issue.  despite having a really nice digital setup with lots of uncompressed FLAC and DSD files I prefer listening to records ~ 90% of the time.  this is after getting back into vinyl about 2-1/2 years ago having not played an LP for 25 years.  
Despite all of the minor issues vinyl sounds more natural in timbre and is more life like.  
Case by case, record by record. I buy old pressings 10/1 over new ones. I have nothing against reissues or remasters as such; some do actually improve on the early or original pressing (whatever you want to call "original" also varies); some are obviously inferior sonically to early pressings. First pressings aren’t always the best sounding ones either.
I typically buy a reissue when the original is so costly that I’d likely not buy the record at all, given the price.
As to the gear, yes, agreed, we live in an age with more turntables, arms and cartridges than ever. But, some of that vintage gear is pretty killer too- the EMT tables, the refurbished SP-10, Micro-S, etc. I don’t think there is a single answer to any of this. In my case, records I have owned for 30 or more years sound better now than before because my analog front end has improved over time and, with respect to old records, as @lewm and @terry9 noted, knowledge about record cleaning is better and my methods and equipment have improved. (The Monks, which is essentially the same now as it was in the late ’60s does a very good job, as do ultrasonics, with some limitations in my experience, a subject for another thread perhaps).
To come back to the records, there are some terribly recorded, mastered and/or manufactured records from the ’60s and ’70s, just as there are such records today. You’ve got to dig in, trade listening notes with people you trust rather than rely solely on reviews and go through the experience of comparing pressings of records you like. My biggest complaint about audiophile pressings is that for obvious business reasons, the same stuff gets reissued again and again. The obscure, harder to find stuff is often not reissued, or is reissued "unofficially" (read: counterfeit or bootleg) and when it is legitimately re-issued in many cases, it is not by an audiophile label, source material is likely a digital file (not that this is always bad, but...). Occasionally, a good reissue label will do a bang up job on something that is not a warhorse but I think those are exceptions.
To me, this is half the fun of having records- the research, the comparisons, the history behind the recording. The real grief in old records, apart from sorting through the thicket, is condition. That is also a subject for another thread (about which there are already many).

I agree with lewm.  I have some from the late 50's and early 60's that sound incredible.  Nearly half of my LP collection was bought used and they sound wonderful. 

Find a friend with a good system.  Bring your favorite CD and it's LP counterpart.  That should be all it takes to convince you.  I usually prefer older pressings to newer ones, but I must say today's pressings are really getting good. 

Playing a clean LP (I wet clean using the formula from the December 1996  Stereophile at every play) and my Records are clean, quite and dynamic.  Using a quality record cleaning machine is a wonderful idea if you find cleaning your records a bother.

If anyone  wants a PDF of the record formula email and I will send it to you.  n@normansizemore.com

N.

I was planning on buying a very basic Player with a Cartridge already included for around $200.00 from Music Direct. Should I get it and try out LPs ( which I have none) or save my money and buy a better player and cartridge? Thanks for your Input!
I think the minimum spend is
$500 for TT buy a good used one there are many.
$100 min for new cartridge.
$600

A lot of people go digital because the required investment is less ie at $600 you might find digital = same quality as Vinyl. I am not sure where the crossover point is. Digital will be be easily better than a $200 turntable

that's my opinion.. i have both
mick